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To: Ed Ajootian who wrote (28110)12/14/2003 7:16:32 PM
From: Richard Saunders  Respond to of 206336
 
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To: Ed Ajootian who wrote (28110)12/14/2003 9:06:40 PM
From: Raymond Duray  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 206336
 
I know this is unrealistic, but I wish Bush would use this as an excuse to declare total victory in Iraq and get our troops the hell outta there.

I nonconcur. It is not unrealistic in the least. It simply isn't the game plan. We're in Iraq to steal the oil. Bringing the troops home makes that impossible. Ergo, we're going to have troops being maimed and murdered in Iraq for the next few decades. And we'll murder the Iraqis at a ratio of 100:1. This ugliness will never end. Think Palestine for a prediction....

Here's one of the smartest items on the Iraq situation to come out today:

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To: Ed Ajootian who wrote (28110)12/15/2003 1:31:09 PM
From: kodiak_bull  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 206336
 
Ed,

I don't think so. I think the value of the Nuremberg trials was in seeing these monsters reduced to prisoners, in seeing them forced to answer, in that most civilized setting, a courtroom, for the most vicious crimes imaginable, and in letting the world see it.

Eleven were sentenced to hang, eleven sent to Spandau, I think. And of course the trials would have been enhanced, not diminished, if Adolph Hitler could have been tried (and hanged) as well. It's a great visual lesson for human rights to see omnipotent tyrants brought low before the power of law and justice. I have to believe seeing Saddam in an orange jumpsuit, forced to face at least some of his accusers (the widows and orphans), is much better than producing a corpse on a cold slab (e.g. his two thug sons). He's murdered the most Muslims in history, let him be tried according to western rules but in a Moslem country and be sentenced to a Moslem death--beheading by scimitar, or perhaps they could sharpen up the points on Uday's iron maiden and give it one last go before they melt it down for pig iron:

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