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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (20334)12/18/2003 4:45:49 AM
From: LindyBill  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793690
 
Remember 'Weapons of Mass Destruction'? For Bush, They Are a Nonissue
By RICHARD W. STEVENSON - New York Times

WASHINGTON, Dec. 17 — In the debate over the necessity for the war in Iraq, few issues have been more contentious than whether Saddam Hussein possessed arsenals of banned weapons, as the Bush administration repeatedly said, or instead was pursuing weapons programs that might one day constitute a threat.

On Tuesday, with Mr. Hussein in American custody and polls showing support for the White House's Iraq policy rebounding, Mr. Bush suggested that he no longer saw much distinction between the possibilities.

"So what's the difference?" he responded at one point as he was pressed on the topic during an interview by Diane Sawyer of ABC News.

To critics of the war, there is a big difference. They say that the administration's statements that Iraq had chemical and biological weapons that it could use on the battlefield or turn over to terrorists added an urgency to the case for immediate military action that would have been lacking if Mr. Hussein were portrayed as just developing the banned weapons.

"This was a pre-emptive war, and the rationale was that there was an imminent threat," said Senator Bob Graham of Florida, a Democrat who has said that by elevating Iraq to the most dangerous menace facing the United States, the administration unwisely diverted resources from fighting Al Qaeda and other terrorists.

The overwhelming vote in Congress last year to authorize the use of force against Iraq would have been closer "but for the fact that the president had so explicitly said that there were weapons of mass destruction that posed an imminent threat to citizens of the United States," Mr. Graham said in an interview on Wednesday.

As early as last spring, Mr. Bush suggested that the Iraqis might have dispersed their biological and chemical weapons so widely that they would be extremely difficult to find. And some weapons experts have suggested that Mr. Hussein may have destroyed banned weapons that he had in the early 1990's but left in place the capacity to produce more.

This week, at a news conference on Monday and in the ABC interview on Tuesday, Mr. Bush's answers to questions on the subject continued a gradual shift in the way he has addressed the topic, from the immediacy of the threat to an assertion that no matter what, the world is better off without Mr. Hussein in power.

Where once Mr. Bush and his top officials asserted unambiguously that Mr. Hussein had the weapons at the ready, their statements now are often far more couched, reflecting the fact that no weapons have been found — "yet," as Mr. Bush was quick to interject during the interview.

In the interview, Mr. Bush said removing Mr. Hussein from power was justified even without the recovery of any banned weapons. As he has since his own weapons inspector, David Kay, issued an interim report in October saying he had uncovered extensive evidence of weapons programs in Iraq but no actual weapons, Mr. Bush said the existence of such programs, by violating United Nations Security Council resolutions, provided ample grounds for the war.

"If he were to acquire weapons, he would be the danger," Mr. Bush continued, referring to Mr. Hussein. "That's what I'm trying to explain to you. A gathering threat, after 9/11, is a threat that needed to be dealt with, and it was done after 12 long years of the world saying the man's a danger."

Pressed to explain the president's remarks, Scott McClellan, the White House spokesman, said Mr. Bush was not backing away from his assertions about Mr. Hussein's possession of banned weapons.

"We continue to believe that he had weapons of mass destruction programs and weapons of mass destruction," Mr. McClellan said on Wednesday.

Mr. Bush has always been careful to have multiple reasons ready for his major policy proposals, and his administration has deployed them deftly to adapt to changing circumstances.

In trying to build public and international support for toppling Mr. Hussein, the administration cited, with different emphasis at different times, the banned weapons, links between the Iraqi leader and terrorist organizations, a desire to liberate the Iraqi people and a policy of bringing democracy to the Middle East.

When it came to describing the weapons program, Mr. Bush never hedged before the war. "If we know Saddam Hussein has dangerous weapons today — and we do — does it make any sense for the world to wait to confront him as he grows even stronger and develops even more dangerous weapons?" Mr. Bush asked during a speech in Cincinnati in October 2002.

In the weeks after the fall of Baghdad in April, the White House was equally explicit. "One of the reasons we went to war was because of their possession of weapons of mass destruction," Ari Fleischer, then the White House spokesman, told reporters on May 7. "And nothing has changed on that front at all."

On Wednesday Mr. McClellan, when pressed, only restated the president's belief that weapons would eventually be found. Mr. Bush, despite being asked repeatedly about the issue in different ways by Ms. Sawyer, never did say it, except to note Mr. Hussein's past use of chemical weapons. He emphasized Mr. Hussein's capture instead.

"And if he doesn't have weapons of mass destruction?" Ms. Sawyer asked the president, according to a transcript provided by ABC.

"Diane, you can keep asking the question," Mr. Bush replied. "I'm telling you — I made the right decision for America because Saddam Hussein used weapons of mass destruction, invaded Kuwait. But the fact that he is not there is, means America's a more secure country."
nytimes.com



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (20334)12/18/2003 5:32:49 AM
From: LindyBill  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793690
 
I was very lonely opposing the Environmentalists in the early 70's. So it gives me great satisfaction to watch the Religion topple. "Slowly it turns, and inch by inch, bit by bit!"

Tech Central Station. - Two Articles

Kyoto Triggers Palacio Revolution in the EU

By Hans Labohm Published 12/18/2003

About a week ago I was quarrelling with the Dutch Assistant Secretary for Environment and Climate Issues on the Netherlands TV. On the basis of a report published last month by the European Environment Agency, I argued that almost all 15 EU nations were falling behind their CO2 emission targets. He replied that I was wrong: he was confident that the targets would be met. Moreover, I argued that Kyoto was dead because Russia would not ratify, so that there would be too few countries for the Treaty to enter into force. He retorted that I was wrong again: he was sure that Russia would eventually join. Finally, I said that if Europe would be the only party to comply with Kyoto it would damage its worldwide competitiveness. Again the Assistant Secretary begged to disagree with me by pointing out that this issue was currently addressed in the WTO.

Funny! Less than one week later, on 16 December, the Moscow Times reported that Europe is abandoning the sinking Kyoto Protocol because EU Energy Commissioner Loyola de Palacio told national energy ministers meeting in Brussels that it would be "suicide" for the 15‑nation bloc to follow the Kyoto treaty if Russia, whose support is crucial to the treaty, does not come on board. "The time has come for us to face to reality," de Palacio said. "We can't go on pretending that everything is fine when it's not." Following the remarks of de Palacio EU ministers expressed concerns that Europe could be harmed if it pushes ahead without major trading partners. "We could hurt our competitiveness" if only European companies are subject to Kyoto's constraints, said Antonio Marzano, Italy's industry minister.



These remarks contrast to Europe's official position. Only last week, EU Environment Commissioner Margot Wallstrom told a UN conference that Europe would continue to lead the world in fighting climate change.



Would it be too far-fetched to presume that very soon one issue will be removed from the list of mutual Transatlantic grievances and that Europe should, after all, be grateful to the common sense which the US and Russia have displayed on Kyoto?



All is well that ends well.

Copyright © 2003 Tech Central Station - www.techcentralstation.com

Skeptical Environmentalist Vindicated!

By James K. Glassman Published 12/17/2003


The Danish Ministry of Science, Technology and Innovation today severely repudiated a board which, a year ago, had judged "The Skeptical Environmentalist," the best-selling book by Bjorn Lomborg, "objectively dishonest" and "clearly contrary to the standards of good scientific practice."



Lomborg's book -- with 2,930 footnotes, 1,800 bibliographical references, 173 figures and nine tables -- powerfully challenged the conventional wisdom that the world's environment was going to hell. When it was published in English in 2001, the book, published by the distinguished Cambridge University Press, was praised in The Washington Post, The Economist and elsewhere.



That reception provoked panic among radical greens. In early 2002, The Economist reported that "Mr. Lomborg is being called a liar, a fraud and worse. People are refusing to share a platform with him. He turns up in Oxford to talk about this book, and the author… of a forthcoming study on climate change throws a pie in his face."



In January 2002, Scientific American magazine published a special section titled "Science Defends Itself Against 'The Skeptical Environmentalist.'" Articles by perfervid critics of Lomborg covered 11 pages. All this attention, however, served merely to boost sales of the book, which nearly two years after its publication still ranked first in its category on Amazon.com.



Then, in January, came what enviros figured would be the coup de grace: a report by the Danish Committees on Scientific Dishonesty (DCSC). The report was, to be charitable, a piece of junk, but its conclusions, coming from an official body, were nonetheless given prominent display in world media. The New York Times headlined its page 7 story by Andrew Revkin, "Environment and Science: Danes Rebuke a 'Skeptic.'"



Now, the Danes have issued a well-deserved rebuke to the rebukers.



The Ministry of Science characterized the DCSC's treatment of the case as "dissatisfactory," "deserving criticism," and "emotional." It found that the ruling was "completely void of argumentation."



No kidding. The DCSC simply relied on excerpts from the Scientific American smears. The only other evidence came from Time magazine.



In its conclusion, the Ministry sent the case back to the DCSD "with an injunction that the DCSD should allow itself to be advised by the Danish Social Science Research Council in matters regarding good scientific practice. In summary, the Ministry must also state that, in its opinion, the treatment by the DCSD of this case deserves criticism."



The ministry's decision is the latest in a series of setbacks for environmental radicals in recent months. I just returned from COP-9, the big United Nations conference on global warming, held in Milan. Never have I seen enviros so dispirited or in such disarray. The Kyoto Protocol, which requires severe cutbacks in carbon-dioxide emissions, is clearly dead. The Europeans are still waiting for the Russians to ratify the treaty. Instead, the Russians are making the most cogent case, intellectually and economically, against it.



Meanwhile, new reports have repudiated Michael Mann's "hockey stick" theory of sharply rising temperatures, a mainstay of warming enthusiasts; have shown that the last century was not particularly warm in comparison with other, pre-industrial periods; and have made a strong case for solar activity, not human intervention, as the main factor in warming.



Earlier, the U.S. Senate soundly defeated the McCain-Lieberman bill, which would have foisted a "Kyoto Lite" on the United States. The bill lost despite the fact that Sen. McCain sold it as costing just $20 per family (a study by Charles River Associates found otherwise, but the green propaganda made the bill sound not disruptive at all, and still it lost).



And now, the vindication of Lomborg -- the mild-mannered statistician who simply said that the emperor had no clothes.



Copyright © 2003 Tech Central Station - www.techcentralstation.com



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (20334)12/18/2003 5:54:38 AM
From: LindyBill  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 793690
 
GOOD AND EVIL

A Tigris Chronicle
The Arab world grapples with Saddam's captivity.

BY FOUAD AJAMI
Mr. Ajami, a professor at Johns Hopkins, is a contributing editor at U.S. News & World Report.

We owe to Hannah Arendt one of the central insights of our time: the banality of evil. Arendt returned with that verdict after covering the trial of Adolf Eichmann in Jerusalem in 1961. There were the monstrous deeds of Eichmann and the Nazi regime whose work he had done. But there was also the man in the glass booth whom Arendt saw and described: "Medium-sized, slender, middle-aged, with receding hair, ill-fitting teeth, and nearsighted eyes, who throughout the trial keeps craning his scraggy neck toward the bench . . ." There is a swindle, a disappointment to great evil. It never quite lives up to expectations. The image of Saddam Hussein in captivity was but the latest variation on Arendt's theme. The dazed and scruffy man in the "spider hole" was the very same tyrant who had inflicted unspeakable sorrow on his people, and on the peoples of two neighboring lands.

It adds nothing to say that the insurgency in that Sunni triangle of rage will go on with or without Saddam. Nor is it particularly insightful to assert that the jihadists who made their way to Iraq--across the Saudi or Jordanian or Syrian borders--are of a religious bent and had no use for the secular despot. In a highly personalistic culture susceptible to myth, the former dictator on the run had become a rebuke to American power, proof of our inability to penetrate an alien, seemingly inaccessible place. We had awed the region with our high-tech wizardry; so our enemies fell back on the consolation that we were strangers destined to lose our way in their cities and towns. Save for a minority of Arabs who cast their fate with us (I think of Kuwait and Qatar) we were in truth alone in an Arab world that wished us ill in this campaign. We had gotten our comeuppance, our enemies and false friends alike were happy to proclaim. The insurgents had bought time, and additional yarn, for Arab delusions; and the disappearance of the dictator fed the idea that we'd blundered into a place destined to thwart our power.
November had been the cruelest of months: our Chinooks and Black Hawks were being shot out of the skies over Tikrit and Fallujah and Mosul. There were rumors that we had begun to scramble for a way out. The capture of the dictator came in the nick of time. Our troubles are not over, not by a long shot. But the message has been received in Araby. The man who'd strutted around the region, who for all practical purposes dominated inter-Arab politics for nearly a generation, was found at the bottom of an eight-foot hole. Legends die hard. The crowd is, of course, what it is, and its capacity for self-delusion is bottomless. In the hours that followed the dictator's capture, and in the shadow of that image of him meekly undergoing a medical examination, the legend spread, in Ramallah and Cairo, and as far away as the Muslim suburbs of France, that it was all a trick, that the man had been drugged, that it had all been an American hoax.

The very same Arabs who had averted their gaze from the despot's mass graves were now quick to take offense that he had been exposed to public humiliation. This is the quintessential "shame culture," and we had snatched from that crowd a cherished legend. But we should not give up on the project we have staked out for ourselves: The quest for a decent political order that would take Iraq beyond its cruel history, and would demonstrate that despotism is not something "written"--maktoob--or fated, for the Arabs. For every Cairene and Palestinian, and for every "intellectual" in Amman, who was second-guessing the way we "processed" the dictator and displayed his surrender, the hope must be entertained that there are Arabs who saw into the tyrant's legend and his legacy. The celebratory gunfire in the streets of Iraq is proof that many of the dictator's compatriots, at least, are eager to be done with a legacy of radicalism and terror.

To the extent that a vast and varied Arab world can be read with reasonable clarity, a decent minority of Arabs has stepped forward to bury the dictator's legacy, to brand him a false savior who had promised the Arabs an age of chivalry and power only to hand them a steady flow of calamities. A noted Kuwaiti liberal, Ahmad Rabie, writing in the pan-Arab daily Asharq Al-Awsat, gave the legacy of Saddam an apt summation. "Countless mothers will light candles and celebrate the tyrant's capture--mothers in all the cities of Iraq, in all the villages of Iran, in all the streets and quarters of Kuwait, everywhere the tyrant's cruelty was felt, and where his power translated into mass graves and mass terror."

It should not be lost on the potential foot-soldiers of religious terror pondering a passage to Tikrit across Iraq's borders that the man who had exalted "martyrdom" would not have it for himself. And it is not that hopeless a bet that after the crowds in Fallujah and Ramadi shout themselves hoarse in support of Saddam, they might come to a recognition that the cause is lost, and that the age of Sunni dominion has come to a close. In the same vein, the young Syrian ruler, Bashar Al-Assad, may insist that what happened in Iraq is no concern of his; but he knows better. The fate of Saddam is a crystal ball in which the rulers and the rogues in the region might glimpse the danger that attends them.

The capture of Saddam, like the war itself, is a foreigner's gift. This is a truth that stalks our effort in Iraq, and our determination to fight a wider Arab battle on Iraqi soil. Saddam was an upstart, it is true. The squalor he was found amidst was not unlike his own wretched beginnings. His path to power was paved with the Arab world's sins of omission and commission. He plucked potent weapons from within his culture's deadly dreams: anti-Westernism, a virulent hatred of Persia and Persians, the scorching of Israel with chemical weapons, the promise of nuclear weapons that would avenge humiliations inflicted on the Arabs. All those had been Saddam's arsenal. No one in the region had drawn limits for him. No "velvet revolution" within Iraq itself blew him out of power, no Arab cavalry had ridden to the rescue of Iraq's population. An American war disposed of this man.

Saddam, it is true, was alone in that "spider-hole" amid the litter of a run-down farm house. But he had been a creature of the Arab order; as late as March 2002, his principal lieutenant, the barbarous Izzat Ibrahim al-Duri (still on the run, an illiterate former street-vendor of ice who came into great power in the rise of the Tikritis) had come to an Arab summit in Beirut. He had been embraced by the rulers assembled there, and reconciliation was in the air. The crimes of the Baathist regime were papered over. It is not so difficult to see that a different destiny could have been had by that stupefied man flushed out of his "rathole" by soldiers of Task Force 121. He had once been the "knight of Arabism" marked by destiny to crush the "fire-worshipping Persians," and to lay to waste the Jewish state. The "knight" has stumbled, but those deadly dreams are not abandoned.

We are not yet readying to leave Iraq. But the dictator's capture lends the process of "Iraqification" greater legitimacy. With Saddam on the loose, our options were limited. We had full possession of Iraq, and we were responsible for everything under the sun. We now have room for maneuver, and the Bush administration has the warrant to grant Iraqis more power over their own destiny. We have given the best of ourselves in Iraq. We are not miracle workers, though. We can't wish for Iraqis more national unity than they wish for themselves, nor can we impose it on them. It is their country that is in the balance. It is they who must put behind them the age-old tyranny of the Sunni Arabs, and their pan-Arabism which was but a cover for sectarian hegemony, while keeping in check those who would want to replace it with a Shiite dominion.

Iraq, we must admit, has tested our resolve. We have not found weapons of mass destruction, and we may never do so. We found a measure of gratitude, but not quite enough. What we found was a country envenomed by a dictatorship perhaps unique in its brutality in the post-World War II world. We can't be sure that our labor in that land will be vindicated. There is sectarianism, and there are undemocratic habits, and a good measure of impatience. But the abject surrender of a tyrant who had mocked our will and our staying power, and whose very political survival stood as proof of our irresolution a dozen years earlier, can only strengthen our position in the Arab-Islamic world. In those unsettled lands, preachers and plotters tell about America all sorts of unflattering tales. The tales snake their way through Beirut and Mogadishu, and other place-names of our heartbreak and our abdication. It is different this time. The spectacle has played out under Arab and Muslim (to say nothing of French and German) eyes. We saw the matter of Saddam Hussein to its rightful end. We leave it to the storytellers to make their way through this American chronicle by the Tigris.
opinionjournal.com



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (20334)12/18/2003 8:27:41 AM
From: gamesmistress  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793690
 
Moveon.org is having a "Bush in 30 seconds" political advertising contest at:

bushin30seconds.org

Here's the pitch:

You don't have to be formally trained in the art of filmmaking, just ready, willing and able to create an ad that tells the truth about George Bush.
All eligible submissions will be posted on this web site and rated by visitors. The top rated ads will then be voted on by our panel of esteemed judges, including Michael Moore, Donna Brazile, Jack Black, Janeane Garofalo, Margaret Cho and Gus Van Sant.

So for anyone interested, go to this site, register, and see what they've come up with. Of course, with Michael Moore as an "esteemed judge", I already have a pretty good idea. :-)



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (20334)12/18/2003 1:42:34 PM
From: LindyBill  Respond to of 793690
 
The Des Moines Register 's Tom Beaumont was on the Joe Trippi conference call hearing all about the handwritten letters — more than 100,000 of them — that Dean supporters in other states have sent to Iowa Democrats. Trippi talked about internal polls showing that three quarters of likely caucus goers say they've received letters — and not all of them are happy about it.

Dean supporters target Iowa with letters
Campaign officials say no one else is trying the handwritten tactic on this large a scale.
By THOMAS BEAUMONT
Register Staff Writer
12/18/2003

Presidential candidate Howard Dean's supporters from other states have written more than 100,000 letters to Iowa Democrats encouraging them to support Dean in the leadoff caucuses.

The campaign has organized another round of letters to go out this week, campaign manager Joe Trippi said Wednesday.

"One of the things we know is we're the only campaign that's having this sort of massive handwritten letter campaign," Trippi said during a conference call with reporters.

He said the campaign's internal polling shows three-fourths of Iowa Democrats who say they plan to go to the caucuses have received letters. Some have received several letters.

Trippi said the letters have been well-received. Some Iowa Democrats, however, consider the advice unwelcome.

Keokuk Democrat Marlene Kelso said she got a letter from a college student in Kentucky in November encouraging her to support Dean, a former Vermont governor. Kelso has not committed her support to any candidate but is considering Dean, U.S. Rep. Dick Gephardt of Missouri and U.S. Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts.

Kelso, a 60-year-old homemaker, said the letter rubbed her the wrong way.

"I don't like this mail that's coming. I don't like people putting pressure on me on how to vote," she said. "I'm a very independent, free thinker."

The letter-writing campaign started in July and has become a monthly event where Dean supporters gather nationwide, Trippi said. The number of letters sent to Iowa Democrats exceeds the number of Democrats who took part in the 2000 caucuses by about 40,000.

Trippi said he attributes Dean's rise in Iowa in part to the letters. Polls show Dean narrowly leads Gephardt in Iowa.
desmoinesregister.com



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (20334)12/18/2003 6:19:21 PM
From: LindyBill  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793690
 
Good move on Sharon's part. Now we can listen to the left, both here and abroad, scream and holler.

December 18, 2003
Sharon Says Israel Might Use Wall to Create Palestinian Border
By GREG MYRE New York Times

JERUSALEM, Dec. 18 — Israel's prime minister, Ariel Sharon, said in a major policy address today that if the current peace efforts fail to bring progress within months, Israel will begin severing links with the Palestinians by pulling out of some settlements and establishing a new "security line."

The Israeli leader, making his most detailed remarks to date on how he planned to approach the stalled Middle East peace process, said the best solution would be a negotiated deal with the Palestinians on the basis of the current proposal, known as the road map. The plan calls for a comprehensive peace settlement and the establishment of a Palestinian state by 2005.

But if "the Palestinians do not make their own contribution in implementing the road map, then within a number of months Israel will take its own steps in order to sever its links with the aim of reducing terror to the absolute minimum," Mr. Sharon said.

"We will not wait forever," Mr. Sharon said in his remarks at a conference organized by the Israeli Institute for Policy and Strategy and held in Herzliya, just outside Tel Aviv.

The Palestinians strongly oppose unilateral Israeli moves, saying that actions must be taken on the basis of agreements.

"Sharon's announcements regarding Palestinian territory have no validity whatsoever," the Palestinian foreign minister, Nabil Shaath, said in remarks before Mr. Sharon spoke.

But Mr. Sharon said Israel was prepared to take one-sided actions that would involve drawing "new conditional security lines" and removing some more isolated settlements. He refused to name any settlements that might be dismantled but said, "Israel will not remain in all those locations where we are today."

Mr. Sharon also declined to define the security line, though much of it would likely be along the barrier that Israel is building in the West Bank.

"The security line will not be the final border of the state of Israel," the prime minister said. "But until the implementation of the road map, that is where" the military will be deployed.

The Israeli leader said the Palestinians would get much more in direct negotiations than they would through unilateral Israeli action.

For the past month, Mr. Sharon has spoken in general terms about unilateral measures that Israel may take if the peace negotiations fail to produce any results.

The Israeli news media have reported that Mr. Sharon is prepared to give the current peace efforts six months, and after that Israel will seriously consider the unilateral steps.

Since capturing the West Bank and the Gaza Strip in the 1967 Mideast war, Israel has built almost 150 formal settlements where about 230,000 settlers live. In addition, about 100 small, informal outposts have gone up in recent years.

The current Mideast peace plan, which was introduced in June, stalled in August amid Palestinian suicide bombings and frequent Israeli raids in Palestinian areas.

Mr. Sharon and the Palestinian prime minister, Ahmed Qurei, who assumed his post in September, both say they are willing to meet with an aim of restarting the process.

But Israeli officials have questioned whether Mr. Qurei will have any real authority, believing that the Palestinian leader Yasir Arafat will continue to have the final say on all important questions.

Mr. Qurei has been trying, without success, to persuade armed Palestinian factions to halt attacks against Israeli targets.

Mr. Sharon has shunned Mr. Arafat, who has left his battered West Bank compound in Ramallah on only a few occasions over the past two years.

Despite the lack of progress in political talks, the overall level of violence has been down in the past two months.

However, four Palestinians were killed today by Israeli troops conducting searches in the West Bank city of Nablus.

Israel's military said all four were armed. Three were masked men with automatic rifles who shot at soldiers from a rooftop, and were killed by return fire, the military said, adding that the fourth was hit as he ran toward troops with an explosive.

The Palestinians acknowledged that three of the dead men were militants, but said the fourth was an unarmed bakery worker who was shot multiple times while on his way to work early this morning.

nytimes.com