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To: lurqer who wrote (33010)	12/19/2003 12:46:36 AM
From: Raymond Duray	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 89467

So for discussion purposes, let's establish a spectrum Too tootie-fruitie. If you want to advocate your position, get masculine, get real, get with it. Get it on. Thom Hartmann has you whupped like a poleaxed polecat. Karl Rove's term for what you hope for is: RADICAL MODERATES RULE! thomhartmann.com Let's Rock, Let's Rule. Let's tell all Baby Bush is nuttin' but a fool. _ABB: Burma Shave_ Message 19612576

To: lurqer who wrote (33010)	12/19/2003 10:26:18 AM
From: Edscharp	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 89467

lurqer, "I specifically asked about socialism..." Didn't Lenin say something like 'communism was socialism plus electricity'? As I said at the beginning of my post it depends what level of socialism we are talking about. I thought the communist example was the most extreme instance of socialism gone wild. "I could counter that unfettered regressive capitalism (Corporatism) produces benefits only for a tiny oligarchy, and the bulk of the populace is left in squalor" You could counter with that, but you'd be wrong. In the U.S. we have a massive affluent middle class that has prospered very nicely in a capitalist system...so thank you very much. I would argue that anybody who can work and is willing to work can find employment in the U.S. I'm not saying that capitalism is utopian. It isn't. There are problems and abuses. No argument there. I merely suggest that in spite of obvious problems it is still far better than any other system.