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To: Neocon who wrote (122139)	12/26/2003 5:26:59 PM
From: Ish	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Here's a good read on how Germany armed itself after WWII. amazon.com I read it about 20 years ago. Germany made tanks and left the barrels off, got them ok'ed as farm tractors. For centuries if say France went to war with Italy they both invaded Germany and the winner was the country that killed the most Germans. Krupp invented a new steel making process so the Germans could build the biggest and longest shooting cannons in the world. Stopped that shit.

To: Neocon who wrote (122139)	12/26/2003 7:29:47 PM
From: GST	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 281500

<Do you have any figures whatsoever to support your assertion about the superiority of its "industrial capacity"?> Have it your way -- Germany was a non-industrial third-world nation just like like Iraq. Germany was completely crushed by sanctions and crawling with international inspectors just like Iraq, until suddenly one day it created a military-industrial complex overnight that was capable of taking-on the all of Europe, Russia, Great Britain and the United States and produced fighter aircraft, tanks, submarines, rockets and missiles and was close to a nuclear weapon, all without any industrial or scientific capability. I now see it your way -- Germany in 1936 was just like Iraq in 2003. Bravo -- you have backed up your meaningless assertions with a pile of manure unmatched in the annals of Internet discussion threads. I yield to your vastly superior pile of horse manure. Nobody piles it higher and thicker than do you. Enjoy the steam -- I will leave it to you -- I just can't stand the smell of it.

To: Neocon who wrote (122139)	12/27/2003 4:54:38 PM
From: Bilow	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Hi Neocon; Re: "Germany was a shambles. Do you have any figures whatsoever to support your assertion about the superiority of its "industrial capacity"?" Your inability to understand the power of Germany in 1936 is matched by your inability to understand the power of Iraq in 2003. An invasion and occupation of Germany in 1936 would have led to a bloody guerilla war that would have eventually forced the British and French to withdraw. In 1945, Germany had lost enough people that the occupation was peaceful. The mistake you're making, to think that the power of a nation is in its military, was the same one that the Japanese military made when they convinced themselves that they could defeat the US with a quick attack. No, the fact is that even if the Japanese had occupied Washington DC, a guerilla war would have broken out against them and eventually thrown them into the sea. Big nations are not easily defeated with short unbloody wars. And as far as "industrial capacity", the figures are all over the web, you need only look for them. -- Carl