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To: marcos who wrote (122159)12/26/2003 6:35:41 PM
From: Nadine Carroll  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
It is one of the ironies of history that Churchill supported Zionism because he thought that Jews, in those countries that wouldn't let them take part in national politics, like Russia, would become either Bolsheviks or Zionists, and he much, much preferred that they become Zionists. Churchill was not free from the prevailing illusion that Jews represented a very powerful political alliance, and thus he helped the Zionists actually become powerful enough to realize their dream, which they had not been before.



To: marcos who wrote (122159)12/26/2003 7:02:15 PM
From: Hawkmoon  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
marcos.. Anyone who reads Churchill's biography understands that he was a man of many contrasts, as well as someone who's political and social ideas moderated over time (as well as through his shifting of political sides in parliament).

The man was not intellectually infallible.. having been on the wrong side of many issues and events (Ghandhi being one of those, Gallipoli being another one)..

He was, at heart, an imperialist, who believed that Britain had brought civilization to the undeveloped regions of the world and it was her duty to look out for them (as well as extract her vital resources from them)..

He was a man of his times and someone who could, in some instances, change as those times required. But like most of us, in some instances he resisted change.

But most of all, he had a keen understanding of the nature of power and totalitarian regimes. And he was most prescient with regard to the dangers Hitler, and later Stalin, posed to Europe and the rest of the world.

And as Nadine mentioned, he was also one of the best allies the Jews had when it came to obtaining their own homeland.

Hawk



To: marcos who wrote (122159)12/27/2003 5:14:00 PM
From: Neocon  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
I have read the whole of the essay. Churchill emphasizes that most Jews are not radical, and that most are loyal to their countries of residence. He also blames the mistreatment of the Jews for much of the attraction of Communism to the deracinated. Finally, he admires Zionism. Your quote is despicably misleading.......