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To: Activatecard who wrote (4001)12/28/2003 10:37:27 PM
From: mishedlo  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 110194
 
I'm sure President Bush would appreciate an apology.

I would appreciate the next president of the US handing Bush over to an international war crimes tribunal for trial.

Apologise to Bush.
Bullsh*t

M



To: Activatecard who wrote (4001)12/28/2003 11:11:39 PM
From: marginmike  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 110194
 
yes, it is true the history of war is full of false precursors. However in many cases they were instigated under false pretext for the right reasons. The best examples are in WWii where FDR despertly wanted to join the defence of Europe, but was unable to do it due to public dissent. The WMD issue may have been exagerated and used as a pretext, but the result was benevolent, and riteous. In the Balkhans Milesovic would still be butchering people if we left the worlds leadership to spineless, beurocratic, and cowerdly nations like France and Germany. In the storm of adversity it is those who make the difficult and unpopular stance that have moved the nations of the world towerds civility. Now, I dont love the way the American Government has dealt with the aftermath of the war in Iraq, but questioning the logic of removing a leader who has killed Millions of people needs no justification. I am just glad there is someone in the world who, for whatever the pretext they choose, has the fortitude to spend money and presious life to remove such cancer's from the Human existence. As the 2nd generation of a holacoust survivor, I sure wish France, and England had the same fortitude when Germany annexed poland, austria and the czckleslovokia. If they had maybee I would have known my grandparents, uncles aunts and cousins. As all you American bashers salivate over every American loss of life, and failure, just picture what the world would be like without America. As America descends into its fall, as debt and arogence overcome ethic and wealth I am sadned at the world my 4 week newborn will venture into one day. What will it be like without American leaqdership to bash? What will it be like when the world is focused in the East instead of the West? The world is changing, America is in its middle ages, so keep bashing. Maybee you will find the grass isnt quite as Green on the other side when America isnt calling the shots. Guess youd prefer the french or chinese?



To: Activatecard who wrote (4001)12/28/2003 11:26:00 PM
From: Kailash  Respond to of 110194
 
Hi SAF,

I sure hope Bush won't look as bad to future historians as Hitler looks to us, and I share your view that this is highly unlikely. Still, on the basis of what he's done so far it's clear to the rest of the world (if not as commonly in the US) that he's extremely dangerous. They see him surrounded by a group of people who have a stated intent to dominate the world politically and militarily, and who had advocated invading Iraq long before 9/11. The administration doesn't announce this as official policy -- but then the official reasons for going to war are now known (and occasionally admitted) to have been lies. What's really at stake is control of what will be increasingly scarce energy resources, and trying to solve this problem militarily will trigger a complex suite of counter-reactions.

My point -- on the subject of this thread -- was just that current US military endeavors are taking place at a time where foreign economies are integrally interlinked with ours, so that *their* perception of what is going on matters. If China and Japan don't want the US dominating the Middle East, and there is all reason to think they don't, then they are likely to exert their financial power to prevent it. And they have that power, simply by virtue of us being hooked on them lending us 2 billion dollars a day. Put differently, the US currently doesn't have the economic strength to dominate the world. The falling dollar is the price we're already paying for the attempt to do so. By pretending we're still on top, we're making damn sure we won't be.

Cheers,
Kailash