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To: marginmike who wrote (4009)	12/28/2003 11:20:35 PM
From: mishedlo	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 110194

Bullshit. Play this The WHOLE thing. kaicurry.com The end does NOT justify the means. What Bush did with his strike first ask questions later policy opened up EVERY other country to do the same thing. Hussein was evil. So is Bush. IMO any country that decides that Bush is evil has the right to get rid of him. The US is NOT above international law. Not only did Bush lie about WOMDs (hoping to find them), he was WRONG and they were not there at all. Hussein was no threat. I challenge ANYONE to show that Hussein was a real threat. Bush OTOH is a threat to world peace and our Bill of Rights. He is also a war criminal and should be tried. Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld are three of the most destabalizing people in the entire WORLD. Mish

To: marginmike who wrote (4009)	12/28/2003 11:26:54 PM
From: philv	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 110194

"The WMD issue may have been exagerated and used as a pretext, but the result was benevolent, and riteous." I don't really like political debates because they don't lead anywhere. But your above statement cries out for examination. What you are saying is that the result of a lie actually turned out to be benevolent, and righteous in the end. Therefore, that lie was justified? Many would argue with your first premise, that is to say that the result is righteous and benevolent. Those arguing with you may even be many Iraqis, and they may have had nothing to do with the previous regime. I have no love for Sadam Hussein. I have no ill will against Americans. But I hate lies, and to accept a lie is to acknowledge to the liar that yes, I am a fool.