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To: rkral who wrote (176323)12/30/2003 2:09:29 PM
From: Robert O  Respond to of 186894
 
Ron, you have posted the following a number of times:
Existing stockholders, i.e., those who were stockholders at the beginning of the accounting period, would be able to see .. *in the EPS alone* .. the impact of an options policy.

If net income is $1.20 per old share, but shares outstanding increases 20% due to non-cash compensation .. then net income is $1 per new share. This is the share dilution that everyone knows about, and seems to agree with.

But this POV only covers *additions to stockholders' equity*. Without expensing, the EPS does not reflect the impact on *existing stockholders' equity*, i.e., the equity that existed at the beginning of the accounting period.


It makes the situation VERY clear to those who might not have understood the real issue. I cannot understand why folks like Amy hide their head in the sand when it comes to the second part of your message.

You have provided FULL numerical examples to make this idea clear and yet...

Ah well, Amy is too busy praising China for all its achievements ... like

1989: Massacre in Tiananmen Square
Several hundred, possibly thousands, of civilians have been shot dead by the Chinese army during a bloody military operation to crush a democratic uprising in Peking's (Beijing) Tiananmen Square.

Troops were used to clear the square despite repeated assurances from Chinese politicians that there would be no violence.

It has been suggested that the Communist leader Deng Xiaoping personally ordered their deployment as a way of shoring up his leadership.

Hundreds, and possibly thousands, of people were killed in the massacre, although it is unlikely a precise number will ever be known.



To: rkral who wrote (176323)12/30/2003 11:28:32 PM
From: Amy J  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 186894
 
Hi rkral, RE: "Assuming a policy of granting options remains unchanged"

This assumption is incorrect.

RE: "What is *your* INTC position?"

Stated in one of the posts you replied to, but to repeat, both long-term INTC as well as some calls.

RE: "IMHO he clearly meant for the listener to infer"

No, completely disagree. It was extremely clear to me - maybe because I not only live in Calif but have started a company here so know the business laws, most good, but some harmful.

Unrelated to this post (not to challenge your opinion on this post), to give perspectve on other posts, do you live in Calif?

Regards,
Amy J