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To: lurqer who wrote (33863)12/30/2003 6:06:48 PM
From: jlallen  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 89467
 
The author of the Niger forgeries has been known for some time and has no connection to the Bush Administration....



To: lurqer who wrote (33863)12/30/2003 8:25:24 PM
From: Raymond Duray  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 89467
 
AMERICAN DYNASTY -- And I do mean "die nasty"....

A new book that I highly recommend is coming out in January:

"American Dynasty: Aristocracy, Fortune, and the Politics of Deceit in the House of Bush" by Kevin P. Phillips

amazon.com

search.barnesandnoble.com

Book Reviewer's Comment:

"There are many Bush-bashing books out there, but this one is quite different. Ivins, Franken, and Conason, among others, have focused primarily on the current president's administration. This book, written by a former Republican strategist, is more wide ranging, more scholarly, and in many ways, more disturbing. Focusing on the last four generations of Bush men, Phillips brings the reader into the secretive upper echelon of the American power establishment, where connections are made in Ivy League clubs, and he shows how members of that old-boy network become the policymakers of the country. In the case of the Bushes, this resulted not only in money and power but also in links to the CIA, the energy industry, and the military-industrial complex--links that have shaped this country's national and foreign policy for decades. Phillips explains the Bushes' relationship with Enron and the House of Saud in eyebrow-raising detail and adds confirming information about troubling claims, including the notion that the Reagan-Bush ticket arranged that American captives would not be released from Iran until Reagan took office. One of Phillips' main points is the juxtaposition between the Bush family ascent and European aristocracies, but this discussion almost seems intrusive. Unfortunately, Phillips' source notes were not appended in the galley; it will be interesting to peruse them in the finished book, which will generate much debate in the coming months."



To: lurqer who wrote (33863)12/30/2003 8:29:51 PM
From: Raymond Duray  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 89467
 
I'm still betting on the Office of Special Plans. But that's just me.

I'll give you 10:1 odds on Mossad. The forgeries came along before the OSP really got off the ground. And from what I can tell from Hersh's write-up and other sources, the OSP was largely a 'stovepipe' operation that was filtering all available dirt on Saddam and passing it up the chain of command to Rumsfeld, Cheney and Bush, rather than actively engaging in fabrication of evidence.

If not Mossad, then the hand of MI6 also appears to possibly be operating in collusion with the Italian spy apparatus.



To: lurqer who wrote (33863)12/30/2003 9:14:58 PM
From: laura_bush  Respond to of 89467
 
'Tis Rove. Will he pay with his career -- at minimum?

Hopefully.

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