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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: The Philosopher who wrote (80033)	12/31/2003 3:11:26 PM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

When did I ever say that? Message 19637576 All I'm saying is that those ethics have a religious basis, and do not originate purely from atheist belief. This is what I said at the tippy top of the discussion: <<Surely you have observed that the non-religious among us here have pretty much the same sense of ethics as those who claim religious roots. We don't have to invent anything from whole cloth. We can take what is, extract and endorse the sins against man, ignore the sins against God and other solely religious aspects, and blend in nicely with the rest of you. There's nothing really to defend there since the religious share our ethics. The only thing to defend against is bigotry because we don't practice our ethics in the same spirit.>> Message 19630476 I never denied the role of religion in the development of human ethics. I, for one, have cribbed liberally from what the religionists have done. The only thing in question here has been whether ethical standards are absolutes handed down from God or whether they were developed by people. Since I don't believe in God, I say they're a human construct. I couldn't care less where the religious think they came from as long as they can be relied upon to follow them, at least when they're dealing with me. I would think the converse would be true as well, but you continue to argue.