To: LindyBill who wrote (23772 ) 1/10/2004 8:27:10 PM From: X Y Zebra Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 793851 Thank you for your welcome... The religious wedge, indeed a puzzle that I cannot figure out... for me, it has been a life long dilemma... Do I form an alliance with the socialists to neutralize the religio-zealots, or vice-versa... One of those dumb and dumber decisions... but unfortunately a very real one... So far, I have stayed true to common sense and logic. I think it may start to pay off... I believe that slowly (finally) the great majorities (world wide) are realizing the socialists agenda leads only to failure, regardless of how long you succeed in 'delaying' the inevitable, or what Nirvana is offered in exchange for votes. Now, as for the religious-zealots... I admit to be a little concerned, particularly after Sept 11. The government has skillfully used the fear of terrorism and translated into "the fear of god" and used it for its own power hungry purposes. However, as strange as it may sound, I have to thank Presidente Clintoris because he [indirectly] exposed how crazed the right wing-nuts can be, as a result, many have understood that this threat has to be taken seriously. If only religion could be kept at the "personal level" (outside of public policy), then everyone would be safe. Unfortunately, there are certain members of the Republican party that are bent on regulating morality and beyond. The posted article gives me some hope that people will see-through the veil of patriotism and religious "wisdom" that politicians attempt to dress their real intent, which is pure unadulterated control of power at all costs.After talking to Mr. Bush's longtime acquaintances, I'm convinced that his religious convictions are deeply felt and fairly typical in the U.S. Mr. Bush says the jury is still out on evolution, but he has also said that he doesn't take every word in the Bible as literally true. To me, nonetheless, it seems hypocritical of Mr. Bush to claim (as he did in the last campaign) that Jesus is his favorite philosopher and then to finance tax breaks for the rich by cutting services for the poor. If Dr. Dean should read up on Job, Mr. Bush should take a look at the Sermon on the Mount. Well, it would be even better if they would leave all this sermons out of the picture all together and concentrate in real tangible issues, without undue influence from little men in he sky or cone-headed earthly representatives, who are themselves as power crazed as the politicians they patronize. ____________________________________ "The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary." ~ H.L. Mencken _____ In Re: Evolution: Consider the six days of Genesis as a figure of speech for what has in fact been 4 billion years. On this scale, one day equals something like six hundred and sixty-six million years, and thus, all day Monday and until Tuesday noon, creation was busy getting the world going. Life began Tuesday noon, and the beautiful organic wholeness of it developed over the next four days. At 4 pm Saturday, the big reptiles came on. Five hours later, when the redwoods appeared, there were no more big reptiles. At three minutes before midnight on the last day, man appeared. At one-fourth of a second before midnight, Christ arrived. At one-fortieth of a second before midnight, the Industrial Revolution began. We are surrounded with people who think that what we have been doing for that one-fortieth of a second can go on indefinitely. They are considered normal, but they are stark raving mad. - David Brower lol !