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Politics : WHO IS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT IN 2004 -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: American Spirit who wrote (8881)	1/12/2004 10:26:25 PM
From: sylvester80	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 10965

On a two man race between Bush and Dean versus the other Bush poodles, Dean beats the other Bush poodles hands down and is only 5% points from beating Bush. The closest of them all. And after a few weeks after the O'Neill revelations have gotten traction, Dean will be well ahead of Bush. Mark my words. Dean is the only one that can beat Bush and HE WILL!

To: American Spirit who wrote (8881)	1/12/2004 10:43:52 PM
From: sylvester80	Respond to of 10965

NEWS: Dean, Clark top Democratic choices, poll says Bush still leads in head-to-head matchups Monday, January 12, 2004 Posted: 10:25 PM EST (0325 GMT) cnn.com (CNN) -- Former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean still leads retired Army Gen. Wesley Clark in the race for the Democratic presidential nomination, according to a recent national poll, and two-thirds of Democrats say either man would be good for the party as the nominee. A CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll interviewed 1,003 adult Americans last weekend, including 410 registered voters who described themselves as Democrats, to gather opinions on the presidential candidates and the issues they face. Dean was the favorite of 26 percent of Democrats polled, and Clark was 6 percentage points behind. Dean's figure represents a pickup of 2 percentage points since the previous poll January 2-5; Clark's numbers stayed the same. Their nearest rivals were Sen. Joe Lieberman of Connecticut and Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts, each with 9 percent, and Rep. Dick Gephardt of Missouri, with 7 percent. The poll had an overall margin of error of plus-or-minus 5 percentage points. Bush wins head-to-head matchups At least two-thirds of Democrats said both Dean and Clark are sincere, strong leaders who share their values. One difference: About a third of Democrats described Dean as a liberal; only one in eight described Clark that way. Nevertheless, with Election Day still 11 months away, both Clark and Dean lag President Bush in head-to-head matchups by 14 or 15 points. Kerry and Gephardt fared just as poorly against Bush in the poll. One reason is that Bush's approval rating continues to remain high -- 59 percent -- down 1 percentage point since the previous poll. Clark is seen as a strong leader by more than half of those polled -- 53 percent. About 45 percent said the same for Dean. That has not so far translated into a better showing against Bush. One reason might be lack of interest. The poll indicated that less than half the country is paying a lot of attention to the election. Also, 28 percent of those interviewed said they were waiting to see who the Democrats nominate before choosing a candidate to support in the general election. With 39 percent saying they are committed to Bush and 33 percent firmly against him, the Iowa caucuses next week, the New Hampshire primary later in the month and the other primaries are crucial to what will happen in November.

To: American Spirit who wrote (8881)	1/13/2004 8:25:27 AM
From: stockman_scott	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 10965

Who Cares About Iowa? msnbc.msn.com <<...More important, for generations now, the New Hampshire primary has served as an early CT scan on at least some of the inner qualities of future presidents. In 1980, Reagan went to a candidate forum and grabbed control of the chaotic format as George H.W. Bush and his other rivals sat meekly. When Reagan, echoing a Spencer Tracy movie, shouted, "I paid for this microphone, Mr. Breen!" he both sewed up the primary and showed some of the strength that characterized his presidency. In 1992, I watched as Bill Clinton, savaged that day by the revelation of an old letter he had written trying to escape from the Vietnam draft, told hurting workers at an American Legion post in Dover, "I'll be there for you till the last dog dies!" This was the same grit that saved his presidency during impeachment. Even when George W. Bush was swamped by McCain in 2000, his reaction was instructive. While most candidates would have sent heads rolling, Bush kept Karl Rove and stayed cool and focused. Another thing I like about New Hampshire voters is that they don't usually give a rat's patootie about Iowa. I remember being there in 1984 when Walter Mondale had won a crushing victory in the Iowa caucuses and held a double-digit lead in the New Hampshire polls just a few days before the vote. He lost big to Hart. Al Gore in 1988 and McCain in 2000 skipped Iowa altogether, and it helped them. This time, Joe Lieberman and Wesley Clark are doing the same, and it's working for Clark against Howard Dean. In NBA terms, Clark is getting a reputation as the Yao Ming of this campaign season. He's new in the league and might as well be from a different country; that's how big the cultural gap between Democrats and the U.S. military became during the past 40 years. That he could help close it—and bring along some of the white males who have become almost an endangered species for the party—makes him deeply tempting for many Democrats, as well for the huge chunk of independents who often tip the balance in New Hampshire. Even a big victory for Dean in Iowa won't make much difference to most of these hardy voters. With huge crowds, a much-improved stump speech and flashes of McCain ("Would all the veterans here tonight please stand"), Clark is throwing a serious scare into the front runner in the snowy hamlets where presidents are so often made...>>

To: American Spirit who wrote (8881)	1/13/2004 8:38:59 AM
From: stockman_scott	Respond to of 10965

A Wall Street Journal editorial... 'Angry White Man' Message 19684603

To: American Spirit who wrote (8881)	1/13/2004 11:57:22 AM
From: PROLIFE	Respond to of 10965

<font color=red>ZELL ON KERRY:</font> "What will those former Gore consultants try next? The electric blue spandex surfing bodysuit didn't work. The jeans and Harley Davidson didn't work. Chet Atkins turned in his grave at the senator's guitar picking. And now comes the F-word in Rolling Stone. My mouth ain't no prayer book, but John Kerry could have asked his pal Tom Harkin of Iowa how cussing went over with voters in 1992. Like a lead balloon. It's as if Mr. Kerry will do anything to appear the "coolest" in the Our Gang crowd. What's next? John Kerry wearing a baseball cap sideways?"