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To: Amy J who wrote (180429)1/13/2004 5:42:04 AM
From: Tenchusatsu  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1575003
 
Amy, Tejek & Thread, in Calif they are proposing a budget that cuts 138M from people who are disabled, blind, etc. If we have a population around 30M (?), that's only $5 per person. They are also cutting RND by $11M or so.

The budget shortfall is about $14 billion. Obviously every program will need to cut spending. It's only fair. Why focus only on services for the blind and disabled, unless you want to play politics?

By the way, for most programs in the budget, a "cut" is defined as a smaller increase in spending than previously planned, or an increase that supposedly doesn't keep up with population growth and inflation. Can you find out what the budget was for the disabled and the blind last year vs. what Arnold is planning for this year?

Tenchusatsu



To: Amy J who wrote (180429)1/13/2004 10:30:30 AM
From: Jim McMannis  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1575003
 
RE:"but you know what, this isn't the way to do it - on the backs of only one group - the disadvantaged group. Scary ruthless country."

Time to leave I guess...?



To: Amy J who wrote (180429)1/13/2004 6:37:35 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1575003
 
It really amazes me how out of touch leaders can be in terms of the give and take - even perception. It's ridiculous not to tax the upper income brackets. This extra money is not needed. Obviously, Arnold. believes in the trickle down theory, but you know what, this isn't the way to do it - on the backs of only one group - the disadvantaged group. Scary ruthless country.

First, I didn't know that Arnold was cutting taxes. I thought he was only limiting spending.

As for tax cuts, the rich see it as their due. They won't/ don't relate to the poor and they are insistent that its the fault of the poor that they are poor. This attitude is so endemic to this country, its almost as American as apple pie. The irony is that Clinton showed them what is was like to balance the budget, generate nearly full employment, make the first major inroads in the welfare class and create the longest econ. expansion in this country's history. A minor recession coupled with the idiocy of the Bush administration has managed to undo much of what Clinton accomplished.

I wonder if this generates a backlash - what does one look like just before they occur? Can you sense one before it happens? Was the 60s a backlash and how did it start?

When I moved to CA in the late 80s, I saw a backlash. In the early 80s, Reagan had cut off funding for mental hospitals, some welfare, medical benefits etc, and suddenly, all these misfits were let onto the streets. Growing up I had never heard the word homeless. There were a few bums around but they were not that visible.

By the late 80s, there was a definite homeless population. That's the GOP's solution to a social problem. Meanwhile, Reagan's budgets continued to generate big deficits because all the $$$ he saved he put into the military. Such merde!

ted



To: Amy J who wrote (180429)1/13/2004 10:40:20 PM
From: Road Walker  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1575003
 
Franken Signs Deal With Progressive Media
Tue Jan 13, 6:47 PM ET Add Business - AP to My Yahoo!


By SETH SUTEL, AP Business Writer

NEW YORK - They haven't got a name or a launch date yet, but the entrepreneurs who dream of launching a liberal radio network have just landed themselves a lead man: Comedian and best-selling author Al Franken.



Progress Media planned to announce Tuesday that it has reached an agreement with Franken to host a live, three-hour daily broadcast that would form the anchor of the programming schedule, according to people familiar with the matter.

In an interview, Franken said the format of the show was still evolving, but he said he was certain that it wouldn't be akin to that used by his rival Rush Limbaugh, which Franken described as "non-guested confrontation."

"He has no one on the show but it's confrontation," Franken said. "His show is just him railing for three hours."

Franken said he planned to use a mix of interviews, calls from listeners and scripted comedy. He said he planned to have a co-host with long experience in radio, but he said that role had not been finalized.

Franken had long been rumored to be interested in a deal with Progress Media, the startup company that is assembling radio stations and talent for a radio network to challenge conservative talk show powerhouses like Limbaugh.

But Franken had been holding off in recent months, partly to promote his hot-selling book, "Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them: A Fair and Balanced Look at the Right," and partly because he had reservations about the previous owners of the venture.

"Things got more serious in terms of putting together stations and money to make this possible" with the change in ownership, Franken said.

Last November the company was bought by an investment group led by Mark Walsh, a former America Online executive and adviser to the Democratic National Committee (news - web sites), from the venture capitalists Sheldon and Anita Drobny.

Walsh, who serves as CEO of Progress Media, also said the new network had reached its first major distribution agreement, with the Chicago AM station WNTD. He said he expects to announce at least three other distribution deals in the coming weeks.

Walsh acknowledged that much work remains to be done on the network before it becomes a viable business, including lining up technical arrangements and setting up offices and studios.

He said that about 65 percent of the network's programming has been decided, but he declined to elaborate beyond disclosing another new show to be co-hosted by the environmental activist Robert F. Kennedy Jr. called "Champions of Justice."

The network also has yet to decide on a name. Last month the company indicated it would call the radio network Central Air, but Walsh said Tuesday the company was no longer certain it would be using that name.

Putting Franken in the midday time slot of noon to 3 p.m. Eastern time is a direct challenge to Limbaugh, whose hugely successful show occupies the same time slot.

Franken, whose earlier book was called "Rush Limbaugh Is a Big Fat Idiot," said he plans to call up his nemesis for advice on his own show since Limbaugh has often said he wonders why new radio hosts don't seek out his counsel.

"I'll ask him advice: how he approaches a show, how he frames an issue. If it doesn't happen it will be — very understandably — because he won't take my call," Franken said.

Franken said his contract with Progress Media would last just one year, after which time both sides would reassess how things were going. He also said he very much wanted to do the show during a presidential election year.



"I'm interested in doing what I can to affect this election," Franken said. "I've been thinking about what's the best use of my energies — I hope this is it."



To: Amy J who wrote (180429)1/14/2004 5:02:20 PM
From: SilentZ  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1575003
 
>I wonder if this generates a backlash - what does one look like just before they occur? Can you sense one before it happens? Was the 60s a backlash and how did it start?

Rock on! Free love for everyone!

-Z



To: Amy J who wrote (180429)1/14/2004 5:18:21 PM
From: i-node  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1575003
 
>> in Calif they are proposing a budget that cuts 138M from people who are disabled, blind,

What, exactly, with this cut of $138M do to these people? Are we cutting the budget for painting lines on handicapped parking spaces? Or for printing handicapped bumper stickers? Or for putting braille on elevator doors?

The reason California is in such a mess is that it is full of people who have no sense of how to spend money wisely. It may well be that that $138M can be cut without adversely affecting a single disabled person. Without looking at the details of what is being cut, you simply can't make a rational argument one way or the other.