To: Amy J who wrote (180933 ) 1/20/2004 4:50:04 AM From: Joe NYC Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1572460 Amy J,I wonder why the gov't doesn't create a rule where an abled-person can get and pay for their health care when their cobra runs out? Seems weird. This just shifts the costs to the government and the hospitals & doctors. It seems a bit of a chicken and egg problem, or a vicious cycle. Let's hope the cycle gets broken somehow.My Aunt was a union leader for a large organization. She was quite good and trusted by both sides. Her formula was simple: she would do what was best for the long-term viability of the organization. If an organization isn't around, that won't help anyone. If other union leaders thought this way, a lot of our former industries would still be here.RE: " Unions again. Basically, the unions are running most of the state governments." I didn't know that - how or what % of government? The unionization in public sector is astronomical, percentage-wise, compared to private sector. And public sector employment keeps growing without a pause. Do you know what the biggest industry is in New York City is? Government. Last year, employment in government surpassed employment on Wall Street, in financial sector.A policy maker in SS once told me they would probably cut by 1/3 the distributions across the board, not give out many raises (inflation erosion), and extend retirement to 70. (This is old news.) Sounds like a plan to me, but the chance that the country will face up to this reality is exactly zero. Maybe when the house is really on fire...Okay, maybe a variation, like forced savings the government can't touch. I started to hear other liberal people suggest this idea too. As I said in my other post, I would not be opposed to this. Of course there would have to be safeguards that the government can't steal the money and spend (or redistribute) it. Joe