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To: X Y Zebra who wrote (12192)	1/19/2004 2:42:58 PM
From: X Y Zebra	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 14610

"My next post" The consequences of chronic moronosity.... I say.. ditch the bastards... there is plenty of race tracks being built around the globe... screw the Europeans and their idocy... in any event... the damned tracks are so old and narrow, it will be a beneft to the sport anyway... "let them eat cake"..... roflol _______________________________________ F1 Teams Threaten European Race Boycott Monday January 19th, 2004 By Alan Baldwin Formula One team bosses have threatened not to race in Europe unless exempted from new community-wide arrest warrants that could be used against them if a driver is killed on the track. A senior source at the International Automobile Federation (FIA) said on Monday that a letter had been sent to the presidents of the sporting bodies in European countries hosting races. It said immediate action was needed in Belgium, Britain and Spain, where the warrants have already been implemented. A copy of the document, sent by FIA president Max Mosley and seen by Reuters, said the teams had expressed extreme concern at a meeting in London last Friday over the European Arrest Warrant (EAW). They warned that they were only prepared to race in countries whose governments gave a legally enforceable undertaking not to use the procedure in connection with Formula One race incidents. "The teams say they require the above undertaking if they are to race within the jurisdiction of any of these three countries," the letter said. The warrant, introduced on January 1, replaces national extradition deals between EU member states with a fast-track procedure. Formula One's last race fatality was in 1994 when Brazilian World Champion Ayrton Senna died at Imola in the San Marino Grand Prix. Williams technical director Patrick Head and team designer Adrian Newey, now technical director at McLaren, were told last year that they must face a new appeal court hearing into Senna's accident. Both men were acquitted of manslaughter after a trial in Bologna in 1997. The verdict was upheld on appeal in 1999. Team bosses have warned repeatedly that they might not race in Italy, which hosts two races on the current calendar, if they risk conviction under Italian law for race accidents. Eight EU member states have implemented the warrant - Belgium, Denmark, Ireland, Finland, Spain, Sweden, Portugal and Britain. The seven remaining EU members - including race hosts Germany, France and Italy - have pledged to implement the legislation by March. The letter said teams feared that a local magistrate could use the EAW to order the arrest and extradition of team personnel from their home country. They added they did not object to existing extradition procedures. "In view of the potential effect of this development on the Formula One world championship, would you please take this matter up urgently with the relevant authorities in your country and inform the race promoter," the letter concluded. atlasf1.com

To: X Y Zebra who wrote (12192)	1/19/2004 3:06:53 PM
From: Jorj X Mckie	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 14610

Zeebs, i think that the issue with the success of the libertarian party is the strategy and not the lack of good candidates. the idea that we would have a libertarian president before there are consistent representatives on the local level is absurd. instead of putting any money into national elections, the libertarians should back local level elections and get more successful representatives at those levels.

To: X Y Zebra who wrote (12192)	1/20/2004 4:35:19 AM
From: zonder	Respond to of 14610

This is what my test result says: Centerville-You would feel most at home in Centerville, which means that you are more or less pleased the status quo-you think the US government has just about the right amount of control over your economic and personal decisions. Your neighbors include democratic and republican party leaders and others who call themselves "moderates" and "centrists." And the name nearest to my little star on the graph is George W. Bush. Yuck. I feel a strong urge to take a boiling hot bath and scrub. Thanks, Laz :-P P.S. My test result might be slightly affected by the fact that I don't really know the "current level" in most issues asked, such "current level of social security".