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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: JBTFD who wrote (527318)	1/21/2004 1:22:16 PM
From: calgal	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

Bush Promotes Job Training in Ohio Wednesday, January 21, 2004 URL:http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,109080,00.html TOLEDO, Ohio — President Bush promoted his job-creation and worker-training goals Wednesday in Ohio -- a state hit hard by manufacturing losses and one that is key to his 2004 campaign. Hours after his State of the Union speech, Bush touted his proposal for new job-training grants (search) channeled through community colleges at one of the state's fastest growing community colleges. He called for $250 million for programs to match workers and employers during his speech at Owens Community College (search). "There's no better place to do that than the community college system," he said. In addition to offering classes that help workers learn a new skill, community colleges often work with businesses to train their workers to use computer software or other skills. "It's what we're all about," said Terry Thomas, executive director of the Ohio Association of Community Colleges, which represents 23 technical and community colleges. But he added that there has been little funding for work force development, so any money from the government would help. Owens has seen its enrollment increase for 26 consecutive semesters. It now has about 40,000 full- and part-time students at its campuses in Toledo and Findlay. Amanda Rush, who studies commercial art at the school and works part-time at a deli, didn't get one of the 300 invitations to see the president. She said she would like to hear him talk more about creating more high-paying jobs. "That's why I came back to school," said Rush, a 24-year-old with two children. "Sometimes the government forgets about the little people." Bush's proposal for helping train workers comes at a time when Ohio has seen the loss of thousands of jobs in manufacturing over the past few years. Ensuring that trade agreements with other nations are fair and establishing a reliable energy source for manufacturers are necessary to secure jobs in the sector, Bush said. His visit also comes less than a week after the firing of at least six Owens employees, The Blade reported. The employees of the college's Center for Development and Training told the newspaper they were fired Friday. Some of those who received the two-week notices may be able to relocate in other departments. Owens President Christa Adams told The Blade that the school was restructuring and wouldn't comment on how many of the employees would be permanently laid off or reassigned. Ohio's unemployment rate has jumped from 3.9 percent to 5.7 percent since Bush took office -- the number of unemployed workers in the state was 331,000 in November. Those are numbers that Democrats plan on using during the campaign. "That's an economy that's on the rebound? That's an economy that's moving?" Democratic National Committee Chairman Terry McAuliffe (search) asked last week during a stop in Toledo. "This election is going to be fought on economic issues," he said. Protesters gathered at a union hall near the campus and set up an oversized inflatable rat with a sign around its neck that said, "Where's the jobs?" About 50 people marched from the hall in 10-degree weather to protest outside the campus auditorium where Bush was to speak. Bush's trip to Ohio is expected to be the first of many election-year visits to the state, which has 21 electoral votes and is crucial to his campaign. Bush won the state by just 3.5 percentage points in 2000 despite a decision by the Democrats to pull their advertising from the state a month before the election. McAuliffe said they won't make the same mistake twice. "We're going to give you the resources to win this state," McAuliffe told union leaders. "The Democratic nominee is going to be in this state so much you might get sick of seeing him." Bush has been to Ohio 13 times during his first term. Bush last came to Ohio Oct. 31 to raise money in Columbus for this year's election and speak on his energy proposal. No Republican has won the White House without carrying Ohio.

To: JBTFD who wrote (527318)	1/21/2004 10:15:15 PM
From: Johannes Pilch	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769670

IMO, you forgot, 3. Because he wants to keep wages low by having a large supply of cheap labor available. (class warfare again) You choose to ignore the class warfare angle but it is not ignored by others. Dear me. Warfare? Don't you think that is a bit extreme? No one forces anyone to work here. I didn't mention your "3." because it is part of my "2." Cheap workers exploit their low overhead to get opportunity, which many will convert into higher wages over time. It is the way things work and have always worked. You did not start your job at the same pay-rate you currently enjoy. You began the job, proved your worth and progressed to your current post. No class warfare involved. We all use one another for our own ends. You take [Bush] at face value. I can understand that. Many people take politicians at face value. Ouch! Amongst the unkindest of cuts. But if you look at what he does as opposed to what he says in his rhetoric, it is clear where his loyalties are. The owning class and the religious right. That's his base, and that's who he is extremely loyal to the interests of. Well, of course I don't think it is as cut and dry as you make it, though surely there is a grain of truth in what you say. As is true for us all, Bush has certain moral, economic and political affinities for certain others in this country. It is to be expected that he would attend to their perspectives, since he shares them. I understand your respect for someone who can stand on principle. I just wish the principles he stood for were different. Undoubtedly you do. And that is why we have our political system. You are free within that system to press against the principles of others. But this idea of personally attacking someone, calling him a "monkey" or a "moral coward", etc. merely because he has a set of principles with which we disagree is childish. It is not like Bush is a certified liar and moral coward, unlike his predecessor. Personally, I don't much care about the specific principles, as long as the principles exist and are consistently maintained without falsity. In that way I can attack the facts and what a guy stands for. But all of this "Islam is peace", "Reverend Dean Sweet Baby Jesus" crap makes me ill. Your charactarization of "harming people by law" kind of says it all in reference to the issue of regulation. You will most likely see any and all regulation as "harming people by law"... Not exactly. I just think oftentimes when politicians begin to throw around law to stop people from doing something, they almost always create unintended consequences that ultimately make matters worse elsewhere. You just cannot legislate morality.