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To: lurqer who wrote (35906)1/21/2004 9:01:18 PM
From: abuelita  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 89467
 
lurqer-

well said
that deserves an attaboy IMO.

attaboy!

-rose



To: lurqer who wrote (35906)1/21/2004 9:07:44 PM
From: stockman_scott  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 89467
 
Dean Supporters, Don't Give Up ... from Michael Moore

michaelmoore.com

Tuesday, January 20th, 2004

This morning I picked up the newspaper and read this quote from a young woman who had worked as a volunteer for Howard Dean in Iowa:

"All the phone-calling we did, we'd have people who’d say, 'I'm a Dean supporter, I’m a Dean supporter,’" said Kelly Chambers, Dr. Dean's captain in Precinct No. 83. "But when it came to caucus night, we only had 11 people show up for Dean. It just seems like all my hard work's been for nothing."

I was crushed when I read this. Her despair, her sense of "what's the use?" was something I'm sure many Dean supporters are feeling today. I can see, just from surfing the web, the debilitating affect the landslide loss in Iowa had on so many people who had placed so much hope in the man who created a grassroots revolution and was unrelenting in his attacks on Bush and on the war. If having the most volunteers, the most money (all small contributions from average citizens), and the boldest message can't win an election, say Dean's followers, then we might as well just give up.

As one who does not support Dean, I would like to say this to you: DON'T GIVE UP. You have done an incredible thing. You inspired an entire nation to stand up to George W. Bush. Your impact on this election will be felt for years to come. Every bit of energy you put into Dr. Dean's candidacy was -- and is -- worth it. He took on Bush when others wouldn't. He put corporate America on notice that he is coming after them. And he called the Democrats out for what they truly are: a bunch of spineless, wishy-washy appeasers who have sold out the working people of America. Everyone in every campaign owes you and your candidate a huge debt of thanks.

Though I am backing Clark because I personally prefer his manner and his stands on everything from jailing polluters to taxing the rich (not to mention his electability), the worst thing that could happen now would be for the Dean revolution to come to an end. If you have backed or worked for Dean, you must understand the remarkable things you have done and what you have accomplished:

1. 55% of those who voted in Iowa on Monday said that this was the FIRST TIME they had ever voted in a Caucus!!! That is a STUNNING statistic. Although the vast majority ended up going for Kerry and Edwards, I am convinced that the electorate in that state was invigorated by the Dean campaign -- whose entire message was that you CAN make a difference. Just the fact that you have people thinking this way is a gift you have given to America, a nation where the majority, in the past, have given up and refused to vote. I believe that you and Howard Dean will be credited with waking up a near-dead voting public. Thank you, thank you, thank you!

2. On top of first time voters, the overall turnout in Iowa was DOUBLE what it was four years ago. DOUBLE! To double the number of Democrats who showed up in Iowa this week means that many independents, Greens, and former Republicans have seen enough of the mess created by George W. Bush. And it was Dean in Iowa who, until the attack ads against him began, focused his whole campaign on educating voters on what the Bush presidency has truly done to America. The number one reason people gave last night for coming out in zero-degree weather in Iowa, ahead of the war and the economy and health care, was "Bush must go." This can only mean good things for the turnout come next November.

3. The number of young people -- the age group with historically the lowest percentage of voters -- also doubled on Monday night. Again, you have to credit the Deaniacs for this. Thousands of young people from around the country poured into Iowa to knock on doors and talk politics. Although Kerry and Edwards got the youth vote, I believe it was the Dean youth who made it cool to be political again, and the effect of their enthusiasm was contagious.

4. 75% of those voting in Iowa said that they are "anti-war." And who do we have to thank for that? Howard Dean and Dennis Kucinich. They put the war and its illegality and immorality on the Iowa map in this election year. They pushed Kerry and the rest to take strong anti-war stands (even though Kerry, et. al. had initially voted for the war). Some changed their positions, which we welcomed (Edwards and Kerry voted against the $87 billion Bush got to continue the war). Although Kerry got the most anti-war votes and Dean and Edwards split the rest, Dean was the man who converted them. Those who chugged through the streets and farms of Iowa preaching peace deserve our gratitude.

Of course, the problem here, as I pointed out with all due respect in my last letter, is that for whatever reason, Dean himself is not going to give middle America the comfort level they need in choosing who they want in the Oval Office. Dean, as good and as right as he is, just isn't the man, on a personal level, to get Job One done: Bush Removal. That's OK. Moses was not allowed into the Promised Land. But he was still Moses.

So, we now have two Democratic candidates at the top who voted for the war. We have two at the bottom who have been anti-war -- Kucinich, who got 1% of the vote in Iowa and Al Sharpton who got 0%. And then we have Howard Dean who, after a year of campaigning in every Iowa county (where it seemed practically everyone met him at least once), could only scrape together 18% of the delegates.

And then there is Wesley Clark, who is backed by George McGovern, the anti-Vietnam War presidential candidate and the conscience of a generation. He said Clark is the one candidate whose plan will end the war and bring the troops home. Clark may be, now, the anti-war vote's best chance. I believe he is.

But in the meantime, let's tip our hats to Deaniacs everywhere. They've set the tone and the bar and have jump-started the movement to save our country. Good friends in the Dean camp, please don't give up. We need you now and we will need you in November. And, to Precinct 83 Captain Kelly Chambers, all your hard work has NOT been in vain. We cannot win without you.

One year from today, at 12:01 PM, Bush leaves office. But only if the revolution you ignited continues beyond this week.

Yours,

Michael Moore

www.michaelmoore.com



To: lurqer who wrote (35906)1/21/2004 9:40:29 PM
From: coug  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 89467
 
Yes lurqer,

I'm with you too.. The media takes Dean's spirit, passion and "give em hell Harry" personality and tries to turn it against him. Well they now cheer Truman for it THEN but are now afraid of it NOW. So what's up? Just kidding, I know..<g>.

Personal passion in politics should always be there unless you are a scripted puppet for SOMEONE else..

Yesterday, I seen a little wimp of a media whore, from the WSJ pimping for Edwards by using Dean's impassioned plea to keep going in other states against him.. Made me really skeptical of Edwards.

Again, well said.

c



To: lurqer who wrote (35906)1/21/2004 10:20:04 PM
From: lurqer  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 89467
 
Don't wake me up . . . I'm being creative

Scientists have produced the first hard evidence to show that to sleep on a problem is to help solve it.

Although many scientists, such as the chemists Kekule and Mendeleev, and writers such as Robert Louis Stevenson and Samuel Taylor Coleridge, have credited sleep with providing creative insights, proving their claims has been elusive.

But research published in Nature today backs the power of sleep and also suggests that those who like to burn the midnight oil could be hampering their creativity.

Dr Ullrich Wagner, of the University of Lubeck, who reports the discovery with German colleagues, devised an experiment in which subjects were taught two simple rules to help them transform a string of eight digits into a string with a new order.

Unknown to them, there was a third hidden rule that could only be gleaned through insight and allowed subjects to improve their performance rapidly. After initial training, subjects were allowed to sleep or forced to stay awake.

Sleep worked wonders - subjects allowed an eight-hour snooze were twice as likely to work out the third rule as those kept awake.

"Thus, sleep acts as a creative learning process," said Dr Wagner.

But he added: "We do not yet know which brain areas are affected by sleep to facilitate insight." However, a memory centre called the hippocampus is thought to play a key role, perhaps by replaying a problem - "offline processing" - during sleep.

In an accompanying article in Nature Drs Pierre Maquet and Perrine Ruby, of the University of Liege, said the role of sleep in creativity "will be a mystery for some time yet".

They added that the study "gives us good reason to respect our periods of sleep" - especially given the current trend to curtail them recklessly.

telegraph.co.uk

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My first reaction to this was a - Well duh! Anyone who hasn't noticed the effect of sleep on the creative process, hasn't been paying attention. A little more reflection though, and I backed off a bit. First, it's more than a little presumptuous for me to be sure I know what the creative process is like in others. Secondly, even for myself, the effects of sleep are manifold, and I'm not sure to what this study is referring. I hope everyone has had the experience of waking up refreshed and with your head "clear as a bell". For whatever reason, the electrolytic balances are "just right" and the neurons are firing. To greater or lessor extent, is that what this study is measuring? Maybe. If so then IMO it's missing something else. There is this state of semi-sleep - you aren't asleep, but you surely aren't awake either. It can happen as you are going to sleep, or as you are wakening. It is in that state that I find I can be my most creative - may not be much, but it is still my personal best. It's as though the pieces of a puzzle are easier to move around into a new configuration while in that state. And hence, it's easier to get novel ideas. Doesn't mean that the ideas are any good. They still have to be tested and evaluated, but for me that isn't the creative part of the process. Unfortunately, I saw nothing of this in the quoted article, with the possible exception being the early mention of the chemists and writers.

Please excuse my personal digression. Just something of significance to me.

lurqer



To: lurqer who wrote (35906)1/22/2004 9:25:30 AM
From: Suma  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 89467
 
Ditto on the reasons you gave for being in Dean's camp.

I think Clark who is steadily moving up with responses to things like the State of the Union, his popularity with the military and his impeccable educational background is gaining in popularity. I personally like Clark, Kerry,Dean and Edwards.... at this moment in time.

Suma