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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (45311)	1/27/2004 6:31:57 PM
From: elmatador	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

The practical steps are being taken Mq! Brazil tries to unite poor countries on trade By Raymond Colitt in Sa~o Paulo FT.com site; Jan 26, 2004 As industrialised nations discuss ways to re-launch the Doha world trade round, Brazil is stepping up efforts to unite leading developing countries in their drive for fairer global trade. Brazil has been leading the G20 group of developing countries towards freer farm trade. The group was initially blamed by the US for contributing to the collapse of the Doha round, but has since received increasing recognition as a vital player in the talks. During a four-day visit to India, Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva, Brazil's president, called on G20 countries to consider launching talks towards a preferential tariff agreement at the June meeting in Brazil of the United Nations Conference on Tariffs and Trade (Unctad). "Possibly it will be the first step towards the creation of a free trade area between the countries of the group, open to other developing countries," Mr Lula da Silva said. The group includes China, South Africa, and Egypt. Considered as unrealistic by many observers, the proposal reflects the trade ambitions of Brazil's year-old leftwing government. Mr Lula da Silva is expected to travel to China in coming months. "The developing countries need to join forces to defend our interests on an equal footing, whether in trade negotiations, international security, or peace issues," the former union leader said. Mercosur, the four-nation South American trade bloc that includes Brazil, at the weekend signed a framework preferential tariff agreement with India. Fully fledged free trade talks are to get under way later this year. "India and Brazil can together create a political force able to help change the global trade geography to better meet the interests of the planet's poorest people," Mr Lula da Silva said. As part of a bilateral space agreement signed with Brazil, small Brazilian satellites were to be launched from southern India, both foreign ministries said. The South American country suffered a setback in its space programme after a satellite-launching rocket exploded last year. The Indian government expressed "extreme interest" in deepening ties with South America, and particularly with Brazil.

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (45311)	1/27/2004 9:48:28 PM
From: Hugh A	Respond to of 74559

Mq - English culture is the first and most important... I have always thought that one of the most important things explaining the relative wealth of "English" (i.e., American, British, NZ, OZ, Canuck) countries was the Magna Carta. Once the King became a servant of the people and not the other way 'round, the English moved out of feudal society. So basically, it took six or seven hundred years to move from feudalism to capitalism. So are we surprised when, say, Zimbabwe can't make it out of feudal society? What amazes me are the Chinese. They seem to managing the change from feudalism (latest manifestation as communism) to capitalism in a few generations. It seems to me that countries where the people still serve the King (Africa, Middle East, parts of Asia and South America, Chaostan) will have to wait for their Magna Carta before they share in the wealth. George le Roi wants to help, but unfortunately this change needs to be from within, not imposed by Gunboat Diplomacy. Hope your summer is well - we are -35C here, daytime high! HA