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Politics : HOWARD DEAN -THE NEXT PRESIDENT? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Ann Corrigan who wrote (2574)	1/28/2004 12:06:00 PM
From: coug	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 3079

Yes Ann, The Truman/MacArthur situation is a very good comparison.. And that is the way it should be. A strong president controlling the military. BTW, The senate is "interrogating" David Kay on c-span now.. c

To: Ann Corrigan who wrote (2574)	1/28/2004 12:37:41 PM
From: Lizzie Tudor	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 3079

I believe hammering GW Bush's domestic policy would win more votes than the anti-war theme. You and I agree completely. And I did not support the Bush approach to Iraq at all. But the problem is, you have a factionalized electorate on this issue, and the divide is not across party lines. And then there is the emotion of what to do NOW, when we have troops over there. There are some high-up military men bashing Iraq now (like that Zitti guy), and Tommy Franks is coming out in defense of Bush- this is counterproductive. Pretty much every voter supports Tommy Franks, even if they don't support Bush. My feeling all along (which admittedly won't fly with voters)- is to elect a star negotiator (something Bush sorely lacks) and if that individual does not have the correct military credentials, a military advisor should be appointed. Or, if one individual who possesses both qualities can be found, ala Colin Powell, appoint them. But all this back and forth about which military maneuvers are appropriate now in Iraq is not what we should be electing a president for, in my view. I don't think most voters really buy the "we are at war" line either. Wartime is clearly different than this period. But on domestic issues we have a completely different situation which resonates with most voters except the very wealthy who Bush panders to. On domestic matters imho Dean is the #1 candidate, although Edwards seems like he might be very strong fighting for the little guy also. I haven't heard too much from Kerry but otoh I haven't heard too many Kerry speaches either. Generally speaking I am looking for an approach to deal with this trade deficit from every candidate. I think the constituency will force it from all the frontrunners, so we should be hearing something (except from Bush who is trying to ignore the issue because the trade imbalance is actually a part of the right wing agenda).

To: Ann Corrigan who wrote (2574)	1/28/2004 8:07:41 PM
From: coug	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 3079

Ann, re: "I believe hammering GW Bush's domestic policy would win more votes than the anti-war theme." This might be a regional thing on what people deem <g> to be Dean's main message, but my experience is that the anti-war message resonates best out here. In fact, at my first DeanForAmerica meeting, I met a retired lady who told me she was a life long Republican but came to the meeting because of Dean's anti-war stance. I also mentioned Dean's domestic agenda, but she replied, "if we can't solve the international situation, we will be in such deep trouble, the domestic problems will not matter. IMO, she is right, besides the blood spilled during a VERY unpopular and controversial war, which causes a lot of domestic societal stress(as a tiny example, look at SI, which is deeply divided) the direct cost of the war could go a long ways in solving many problems here. Indirect costs are also inherent during war time. Extra security etc.. So IMO, I I believe Dr. Dean should stay on message. That doesn't mean not to branch out to widen his appeal to demonstrate a broad understanding of all our problems. Which he has done to just the right extent, IMO. c