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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: PartyTime who wrote (531891)	1/29/2004 11:05:38 AM
From: Neocon	Respond to of 769667

There was never such a parade, there were a few unattributed allegations that have not been borne out.......

To: PartyTime who wrote (531891)	1/29/2004 11:06:18 AM
From: JakeStraw	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769667

A phony accountability crusade 1/29/2004 IT TROUBLES me that the Democratic presidential candidates would jump at the insinuations that the Bush administration fabricated the claim that there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq simply to settle a personal score. Let's face it, Howard Dean, John Kerry, and John Edwards are not looking for accountability from the Bush administration. They are looking for a boost in their popularity and a weakening of the president's approval rating, which in turn would mean that they could be one step closer to the White House. It is essentially their hunger for power that is driving this phony accountability crusade against the president. I would much rather have a man in power who uses that power for reasons and goals that he sincerely believes are honorable. A man with such selfish motives is neither ready nor worthy of wielding that power. MIGUEL A. GUANIPA boston.com

To: PartyTime who wrote (531891)	1/29/2004 11:41:15 AM
From: Doug R	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

"...a parade of intelligence officers and career state department and cabinet employees in the US, Britian and Australia were all pre-war complaining that policymakers were slanting the intelligence." Not just complaining...many resigned rather than take part in the deception.

To: PartyTime who wrote (531891)	1/29/2004 12:11:33 PM
From: cnyndwllr	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 769667

A prior CIA director ?Stansfield Turner? was on the tube the other day. He made the interesting observation that in Oct. of 2002 there was a dramatic change in the intelligence assessments regarding Iraqi wmd capabilities. According to him, before October the intelligence wisdom was that it was "possible" that Iraq had some wmd capacities. That changed to "probable" and, according to him, the administration presented that assessment by claiming it was "certain." For those that decry that Bush was "misled" by bad intelligence, I think those allegations, if true, blow them right out of the water. Bush had the motive, the means and the arrogance to manipulate the assessment of intelligence to his own ends, and he and his staff did. It's naive to argue otherwise. The thing that really makes me laugh is for the Bush people to claim "[those that oppose them] thought they had wmds too." Of course we did; who would have listened to the certainty with which the administration proclaimed it as a fact, and suspected that they would be so scornful of the truth? To lie to us and the world was to risk the credibility of the United States of America throughout the world. I know that I thought there must be some proof certain out there or they wouldn't be so stupid as to claim they "knew" there were stockpiles of wmds. For them to now say, "you thought so too" overlooks the fact that ALL OF THOSE who relied upon the credibility of the Americans would have believed at one time. The number of "believers" is now, thanks to them, much lower.