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To: Murrey Walker who wrote (60652)	1/29/2004 1:36:24 PM
From: Dealer	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 65232

But. And this is a very big BUT. While most of us who post regularly here are right siders, those who CONTINUOUSLY bring their Bush bashing agenda should refrain from doing so. There are threads that serve that purpose elsewhere. This isn't what the porch is about. JMHO, of course. Murray! I agree........I do not understand their reasoning......I know that the regulars on this porch do not drag their opinions to boards of other persuasions. I find it interesting that Scott only posted that article on the porch and the Bush Board. Perhaps he needs a better filing system...... dealer

To: Murrey Walker who wrote (60652)	1/29/2004 5:16:57 PM
From: Sully-	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 65232

"Yes the Iraqi War was started by the current administration " So you, Jill & countless others don't think UN Resolution 687 is a legal document? It is, in fact, the Gulf War Cease Fire Agreement. It clearly lays out that Saddam is required to eliminate all offensive weapons, all of its WMD's & all of its WMD programs. This is to be done under international supervision. UN Resolution 687 also required Saddam to stop all of its crimes against humanity & to end all ties to terrorist organizations, ET AL. Any violation of the Cease Fire Agreement would allow the immediate resumption of hostilities. This resolution was to remain in effect until the UN could verify that Saddam was in complete compliance. The US & the UN bent over backwards for more than 12 years while Saddam relentlessly violated UN Resolution after UN Resolution, all stemming from Resolution 687. Regardless of your perception of reality, this one fact alone proves that the Bush Admin did not start the Iraqi war. And any reasonable person has to realize there were many other significant factors all at play here. No doubt the way liberal media & liberal politicians have misrepresented, distorted & outright lied, I can understand how & why so many folks do not have the vaguest idea what really went on. I'm sure you all know about the latest revelation about the documents found in Iraq showing that Saddam bribed numerous politicians, journalists, etc., to get them to support Saddam & work toward removing all of the sanctions & the inspections? I have noticed that most major media outlets have ignored it like almost every other revelation that shows the lies & deceit from the liberal left regarding Bush & Iraq. Yup, perceptions & reality. Often at odds with each other & most folks don't bother finding the difference between the two.

To: Murrey Walker who wrote (60652)	1/29/2004 5:26:21 PM
From: Jill	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 65232

Thanx Murrey. Sometimes certain people have to be held to higher standards, and sometimes certain nations as well. When there is a lot of power and influence in your hands, you must make your decisions very carefully. I suspect a lot is being done to break up al quaeda cells and stop terrorism behind the scenes we will never know about, and I would agree spending my tax dollars on that, and I also even will give up some of my civil liberties in trade for protection, although I'd like a choice in that, a voting choice, and to be informed of that loss. But there are many bad regimes around the world, and we can't be the world's police. If Iraq was intimately involved in potential terrorism, okay. But we could question for instance why we haven't gone after Saudi Arabia when there are good reasons to do so, probably. There are checks and balance in international politics, obviously. Anyway, I for one am glad to live in a country where someone can resign and speak his mind if he so chooses, without getting killed for the effort. And I hope Americans care enough to examine the issues. Whatever the outcome of the 2004 elections, I hope that Kerry is right, that we will have some good open debate. I want to hear all sides, without bashing, and then figure out what to do with my one vote, as each vote can make a difference. :) Meanwhile, the markets held stronger today than I thought they would. :)