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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: redfish who wrote (16183)1/29/2004 5:31:25 PM
From: Greg or e  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 28931
 
It's all fun and games till someone loses an argument! :)

I was just pointing out that what masquerades as "Modern Science" is chalk full of philosophically driven assumptions that are not observable or repeatable. In other words before anything is even looked at, there is a prior philosophical bias against any supernatural explanation even if that's where the evidence points. That's why we get an evolutionary explanation of everything. This is even worse for the explanation of the existence of the universe because you have nothing in back of it to "evolve".

The idea that a personal, self existent being that is responsible for what now exists is rejected out of a desire to avoid moral responsibility, but it is hidden behind the thin veneer of "modern science" when it's actually just philosophical naturalism.

Solon "knows" Jesus did not rise from the dead because he chooses to reject the possibility of such an occurrence before he even examines the evidence.

Greg



To: redfish who wrote (16183)2/2/2004 3:24:03 PM
From: 2MAR$  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 28931
 
I think the one~point origin of this universe, and the ones preceding this universe that came and went, does make a great deal of sense .... if we position a blackhole at the center of most galaxies. It would seem logical that eventually most matter ( & light) would be gravitated to those centers of almost infinite gravities, and they each to gravitate eventually to each other .

or at least that is how I imagine that far off sequence in my layman's mind, (but not so far off if it is correct thinking and I imagine it now...the mind is a beautiful tool) ...quite a thrilling prospect none of us will live to see . Before that will occur , very few stars will fill our night skies any longer as the surrounding galaxies will have drifted far far out and away . The night skies of planet Earth will get very lonely as they turn pitch black into darkness some billion years from now.

As for life evolving spontaneously etc ....it does apparently seem to appear in also the tiniest of points of origins as well. The most ancient known forms of life on this planet being found in and around ocean~floor vents as tiniest of bacterium. From these first tiny points of origin of life , you have a literal and relative "big Bang" of life rushing forth into all its variety and diversity ...well wildly rushing forth on a relative basis , and only after such first sequencing processes were achieved , such as the formation of atmosphere thru plant and algae exhalation.

Kind of elegant , such vast observable phenomena as the universes of matter/energy , micro & macro .... and the universe of the evolution of Life (micro/macro) , all have such tiny points of origin that process out and migrate up into more complexity , with DNA leading the way !