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To: epicure who wrote (5001)	2/1/2004 1:11:20 PM
From: 49thMIMOMander	Respond to of 7844

<private schools can cherry pick> Yes, our last private schools cherry-picked mainly the worst problem kids of very whealthy parents. These days the public schools try to accommodate even them. Ilmarinen PS This is actually true, funnier than the fact of earlier private schools, always knowing how to get easily rid of any little problem, but that was many decades earlier. Btw, some of those private school customers actually turned out pretty well, although it took a lot more of funding than for regular kids. Luckily I did not have neither one of those options, but the system has improved since those days, now concentrating on that special 5%, demanding 500% or more funding. Some of them in congress these days (with a center-based multy-party system, we all love and respect them dearly, they get their 2-3% share without blackmailing the majorities )

To: epicure who wrote (5001)	2/1/2004 1:37:25 PM
From: cosmicforce	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 7844

<I am very much against private education on principle. > It does tend to promote a classist society. And democracy is impossible with an undereducated populace. The privatization of education would be a break with American tradition of 200+ years involving universal public education. If public roads are decrepit, I think the answer is to fix the public roads and not replace them with private roads. Education is just another form of infrastructure that is essential to the smooth operation of our nation, IMO, and its treatment should be similarly circumspect.

To: epicure who wrote (5001)	2/1/2004 3:22:36 PM
From: longnshort	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 7844

I would NEVER send my kids to a public school, it's all propoganda. Some school districts are doing away with honor rolls because the ones who don't make it , Have hurt feels. OH and we must all 'feel good' what crrap, just more of the dumbing down of America. Public School religion is political correctness.

To: epicure who wrote (5001)	2/1/2004 5:39:23 PM
From: cosmicforce	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 7844

End to "propaganda": Georgia considers the term "evolution" too hot. cnn.com Georgia considers banning 'evolution' Friday, January 30, 2004 Posted: 10:11 AM EST (1511 GMT) State Superindendent of Schools Kathy Cox answers questions at a news conference in Atlanta, Georgia, Thursday. ATLANTA, Georgia (AP) -- The state's school superintendent has proposed striking the word evolution from Georgia's science curriculum and replacing it with the phrase "biological changes over time." The change is included in more than 800 pages of draft revisions to Georgia's curriculum that have been posted by the Department of Education on its Web site. The middle and high school standards are expected to be voted on by the state Board of Education in May, after public feedback. Superintendent Kathy Cox said the concept of evolution would still be taught under the proposal, but the word would not be used. The proposal would not require schools to buy new textbooks omitting the word evolution and would not prevent teachers from using it. Cox repeatedly referred to evolution as a "buzzword" Thursday and said the ban was proposed, in part, to alleviate pressure on teachers in socially conservative areas where parents object to its teaching. "If teachers across this state, parents across this state say, 'This is not what we want,' then we'll change it," said Cox, a Republican elected in 2002. Educators and legislators criticized the proposal, saying science teachers understand the theories behind evolution and how to teach them. "Here we are, saying we have to improve standards and improve education, and we're just throwing a bone to the conservatives with total disregard to what scientists say," said state Rep. Bob Holmes, a Democrat. Social conservatives who prefer religious creation to be taught instead of evolution criticized the proposal as well. "If you're teaching the concept without the word, what's the point?" said Rep. Bobby Franklin, a Republican. "It's stupid. It's like teaching gravity without using the word gravity."