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To: RealMuLan who wrote (275887)	2/1/2004 1:41:57 PM
From: Julius Wong	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 436258

>> the majority of graduate students in science across the US campus are foreign born << Science and engineering courses require long hours of study. If you put in too many hours to study, you don't have time to watch basketball or football games.

To: RealMuLan who wrote (275887)	2/1/2004 1:45:40 PM
From: TheBusDriver	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 436258

<<but I have to point out a fact that the majority of graduate students in science across the US campus are foreign born. Any explanation?>> First I have no way to know if what you state is true. But let's assume it is. My answer then can only be the foreign students find the universities in the US offer the best skills and training for the cost, now why would that be?<g>

To: RealMuLan who wrote (275887)	2/1/2004 2:10:09 PM
From: Dr. Voodoo	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 436258

Yiwu, you are right technically, but I have to point out a fact that the majority of graduate students in science across the US campus are foreign born. Do you have any data? I would be curious to know what the real number is. I think it may be so in some fields but not others. Also I should make a very BIG point of clarification. I would suggest that although you may see more foreign born, the majority are american citizen or permanent resident with green card, or wind up that way,, and not here on student visas. Any explanation? It's often called the brain drain. Have you ever heard of it? Fact is, the West owns a monopoly not just in science, but in graduate education in general. Spending capital on all the good brains turns out to be a good ROI. This is I think is the big variable as to why we have an economic lead and likely the only way out of our current conundrum. We're able to innovate faster and create demand for new goods. When we can't innovate as faster than we can consume, we get the tech bubble and the deflationary bubble we're in right now. V