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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (27459)2/2/2004 6:26:12 AM
From: LindyBill  Respond to of 793677
 
Hitchens is back!

fighting words
A Tale of Two Reports
David Kay and Lord Hutton.
By Christopher Hitchens
Posted Friday, Jan. 30, 2004, at 8:55 AM PT

Those who love the Near East are fond of repeating the legendary anecdotes of one Nasreddin Hodja, a sort of Ottoman Muslim Aesop of the region with a big following among Greeks and Greek Cypriots as well as among Turks, Syrians, Lebanese, Iraqis, and others. On one occasion, this folkloric wise man went to the hammam, or Turkish steam bath. His undistinguished and modest demeanor did not recommend him to the attendants, who gave him brief and perfunctory attention before hustling him out to make room for more prosperous customers. They were duly astonished when he produced an enormous tip from under his robes, and when he paid a return visit some time later, they were waiting for him with the richest and warmest towels, the longest and most detailed rubdown, the finest oils, the most leisurely service of sherbet, a long soak, and the most obsequious attendants. As he departed, the old man dropped a few meager coppers into their outstretched palms and, when they began to protest, told them: "The last tip was for this time. This tip is for the previous time."

So Saddam Hussein finally got his reward for all the unpunished times. Well, history doesn't move in a straight line, and irony is a dialectical hairpin. But if he really didn't have any stores of unlawful WMD, it was very dumb of him to act as if he still did or perhaps even to believe that he still did. And it seems perfectly idiotic of anybody to complain that we have now found this out (always assuming that we have, and that there's no more disclosure to come). This highly pertinent and useful discovery could only be made by way of regime change. And the knowledge that Iraq can be finally and fully certified as disarmed, and that it won't be able to rearm under a Caligula regime, is surely a piece of knowledge worth having in its own right and for its own sake.

David Kay and his colleagues in the post-1991 inspections met with every possible kind of evasion, deceit, and concealment. Then they had to watch as their most golden inside informers, the Kamel brothers, were lured back to Iraq by their father-in-law on a promise of safe conduct and put to death at once. Who would trust a word uttered by this gang, after that? It has since been established, by the Kay report, that there was a Baath plan to purchase weapons from North Korea, that materials had been hidden in the homes of scientists, and that there was a concealment program run by Qusai Hussein in person. This may look less menacing now that it has been exposed to the daylight, but there was no reason not to take it extremely seriously when it was presented as latent.

How come our intelligence agencies were so easily misled? This is an excellent question, which has lain upon the table ever since they left us defenseless in September 2001. The case for a thorough purge of the CIA would have been easier to make if the antiwar liberals had not gone on parroting the Langley line, which was to underestimate on some things and to overstate on others. The booby prize here goes (again) to Maureen Dowd, who in her column on David Kay on Jan. 29 said that the agency was "probably relying too much on the Arabian Nights tales of Ahmad Chalabi, eager to spread the word of Saddam's imaginary nuclear-tipped weapons juggernaut because it suited his own ambitions—and that of his Pentagon pals." As everyone with the slightest knowledge is well aware, the CIA was smearing and sabotaging Chalabi until the week of the fall of Baghdad and continues to do so. It remains, within the institutions of the U.S. government, the most devout opponent of regime change with the arguable exception of the Department of State.

If you want another free laugh, or another glimpse of the tiny-minded literalism of the neutralists and isolationists, take a look at the other "scandal" that has just been exploded by Lord Hutton's inquiry in London. One of Tony Blair's advisers, Jonathan Powell, changed the wording of a report in the following way. It had originally read: "Saddam Hussein is willing to use chemical and biological weapons if he believes his regime is under threat." The Blairite alteration removed the last eight words. Since everything was a threat in Saddam's disordered mind, and since he had used such weapons in the past as weapons of aggression inside and outside his own borders, the only "politicization of intelligence" would have occurred if the eight words had been left in, to give the impression that he would only fight in self-defense. The excised phrase lingers on, as a reminder that the opponents of regime change also believed in the existence of the weapons.

The British government's claim that such weaponry was deployable within "45" minutes is irrelevant from both sides, since if the weapons weren't there they couldn't be used at all, and if they were there they presumably existed in some condition of readiness. Many newspapers in London sold extra copies on the bannered "45 Minutes" headline and have been in a vengeful state ever since over their own credulity. That can't be helped. In this ontological argument, nobody claimed that there was no WMD problem to begin with. (German intelligence reported to Gerhard Schröder that Saddam was within measurable distance of getting a nuke: That didn't deter the chancellor in the least from adopting an utterly complacent approach.)

It's been a few weeks since I have heard any new conspiracy theories about the suicide of Dr. David Kelly, who was himself a firm believer in "regime change" as the precondition for inspections. It has now been established that his identity was given away by Andrew Gilligan, a BBC journalist whose reportorial standards were a byword before he became famous. The most inventive theory I have heard this week is that Lord Hutton is an Ulsterman and that Gilligan is a republican-sounding kind of Irish name, and that this is all a subtext of the age-old struggle between Orange and Green. That'll do fine to keep the conversation going, as this ridiculous and paltry controversy recedes into the past.

Christopher Hitchens is a columnist for Vanity Fair and a regular contributor to Slate. His most recent book is A Long Short War: The Postponed Liberation of Iraq.

Article URL: slate.msn.com



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (27459)2/2/2004 6:55:42 AM
From: epicure  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 793677
 
That may have something to do with the fact that most Christians in the UK are less than evangelical. I saw some fascinating statistics about the differences (religious and political) between the UK and the US. We have so many evangelicals here in the US that there is a good base of consumers for Christian manifestation stories- and the news is in part economically driven by the desires of its readership.
So what you may be seeing, rather than animosity to Christianity, may simply be the heavy hand of capitalism (or the invisible hand, if you prefer).

Look at this link- I think it has less to do with insensitivity in the media, than with the general milieu of the culture in which media grow, and how the people of a region approach their own religion. Hard to imagine a bunch of Englishman speaking in tongues, for example- except perhaps at a soccer match- the true religion in England.

religioustolerance.org

Specifically, and I use this as a representative example:

Belief in creation science seems to be largely a U.S. phenomenon. A British survey of 103 Roman Catholic priests, Anglican bishops and Protestant ministers/pastors showed that:

97% do not believe the world was created in six days.
80% do not believe in the existence of Adam and Eve. 4



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (27459)2/2/2004 12:18:48 PM
From: LindyBill  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 793677
 
"Nixon in China."

Sharon Says He Plans to Pull Out 17 Settlements From Gaza
By TERENCE NEILAN - NYT

Prime Minister Ariel Sharon of Israel said today that he had given an order to plan for the removal of all 17 Jewish settlements from the Gaza Strip, causing consternation among settlers and politicians.

"I am working on the assumption that in the future there will be no Jews in Gaza," Mr. Sharon said in an interview with the Israeli newspaper Haaretz, parts of which were published on its Web site today.

Despite his assertions, the motives for the plan were called into question, by the Palestinians and even by an Israeli politician.

Political analysts also noted that Mr. Sharon, a strong supporter of settlements throughout his political career, has announced their planned removal in recent months, but with little practical result on the ground.

The prime minister confirmed his Gaza plan at a meeting of his own Likud Party, but gave no timetable for the move, Israel Radio reported.

"It is my intention to carry out an evacuation — sorry, a relocation — of settlements that cause us problems and of places that we will not hold onto anyway in a final settlement, like the Gaza settlements," the prime minister told a Haaretz columnist, Yoel Marcus.

Meanwhile, the Palestinian news agency WAFA quoted medical officials as saying that four Palestinians were killed today when Israeli forces raided the town of Rafah in the southern Gaza Strip.

Mr. Sharon said he would present his plan to President Bush during a visit to Washington later this month, the prime minister told Haaretz, saying it needed American support and financing. He said he had not yet discussed it with the Bush administration.

Mr. Sharon has said recently that he would take unilateral action if no progress was made on a peace plan with the Palestinians, but up to now he has referred only to the possible relocation of isolated settlements.

The present plan would affect 7,500 people, Mr. Sharon said, and involve moving factories and packing plants, thousands of educational institutions and "thousands and thousands of vehicles."

The first thing would be to seek the settlers' agreement, many of them third-generation, he said.

But to judge from initial reactions that will not be easy. Doubts were also expressed about whether Mr. Sharon would actually go ahead with such a plan, and that if he did whether it would be passed by Parliament

"I am in shock," a Likud legislator, Yehiel Hazan, told Israeli radio in broadcast remarks.

"I think that the prime minister thinks he is the leader not of the Likud but of Labor, Meretz and Shinu," Mr. Hazan said, referring to parties with a political agenda to the left of Likud.

Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom, who was asked about the plan before the Likud faction meeting today, said he had not heard about it, but that he was opposed to unilateral concessions, Haaretz reported.

"My position has been made known publicly in the past, and it hasn't changed: that unilateral steps will not lead to a lessening of the confrontation and friction, and might make it worse," Mr. Shalom said.

The head of the Council of Settlements, Bentzi Lieberman, told Haaretz that Mr. Sharon must listen to his military advisers who are opposed to a unilateral pullout. He also said he did not think the government would pass such a plan.

A spokeswoman for residents in the southern Gush Khatif settlement bloc told Agence-France Presse, that "transferring people from their homes is not the solution to peace in the Middle East."

Zvi Hendel, an Israeli lawmaker and Gaza settler, accused Mr. Sharon of trying to deflect attention from various corruption investigations against the prime minister and his two sons.

"I said several weeks ago that the intensity of the investigations would equal the intensity of the uprooting of settlements," Mr. Hendel told Israel Radio.

A leading Palestinian cabinet member, Saeb Erekat, told Reuters, "Usually when the Israeli government speaks about evacuation of settlements, it aims only at public relations.

"If Israel wants to leave Gaza, no Palestinian will stand in its way."

Copyright 2004 The New York Times Company