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To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (176804)	2/4/2004 12:17:53 PM
From: Robert O	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 186894

The USA school system fosters extremely creative thinking. Lizzie to you and the next few head scratchers about my comment I guess I need to expand. I was responding to a stand alone sentence and took it at face value. Now, many of you want to turn it into a ratio thing vis-a-vis others. I understand it was responding to an overall question of 'smartness' b/t nations but, as usual, Amy goes of the main point which was of course related to academic achievement not some Kellogg idea of warm fuzzy feelings when your 'team' figures out how to market FedEx after it has already succeeded.... Anyway I have a very simply reason for being outraged. I LIVED IT. Yes, that's right I lived through the US system's common school's conception of a solid program and IT SUCKS. Most material is presented in the least interesting way, teachers are for the most part zombies (perhaps due to school board influence I don't know all the causes it just is/was). THE ENTIRE SYSTEM NEEDS TO BE REBOOTED. You might say it's unfair of me to pick on the earlier schooling... well that's my focus because of course that's the foundation from which all the rest must build. I cannot believe any would even take issue with the idea that America has a long long way to go to foster creativity in the classroom. It's a 100% cop-out to try and point to other systems and say, heck, we're not as bad as them probably. LOL Bottom line is most students here go through the equivalent of a Stanley Kaplan cram course for most of their educational lives. it's rote memorization, ripped-off papers, incredibly stultifying and oozing unoriginality. If you are lucky, you get a tiny spark in college and yes it opens up a bit in graduate school. Then of course there are the various PhD papers on the question of how many angels on the head of pin... in its fiftieth format of the same paper but hey the 'good' topics are running out. Amy may want to focus only on the math, science, eng., I won't put on the blinders like her. She, in her usual manner, made a blanket statement now must live by it. Certainly a small percentage of schools DO foster originality. And yes some of us make it to greatness in our lives as we somehow beat the gauntlet of teaching tiredness. I am worried about the majority not the rel. few lucky ones. But re-read the opening quotation. We should all be ashamed of ourselves; I know I am, for not doing MORE to free our children from their misery in chains of academic oppression (I won't even bring up the violence problem in our schools in this post). We need a veritable revolution in our school systems and we need it SOON. We've met the enemy and he is us!!! Oh, as to poor taste, I agree it was over the top but 1) I don't like Amy and 2) she has me on ignore so enough with the gallant defenses of the damsel who never sees my posts!! RO Damn, where's Tim may when I need him on? LOL