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To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (16672)	2/4/2004 6:43:49 PM
From: patron_anejo_por_favor	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 306849

<<Unemployment among young white collar workers, new graduates from the top schools etc. is higher than I've ever seen in my life, higher than 1982 even>> True....OTOH, look at the bright side: the average Starbucks barrista is MUCH more knowledgeable about systems programming, fractals or stock options than they were 4 years ago!<G>

To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (16672)	2/5/2004 1:57:26 AM
From: Oblomov	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 306849

>>the plight of the young professionals whose future went from first to worst in the last 3 yearsis going to get a wake up >call in Nov. 04. Unemployment among young white collar workers, new graduates from the top schools etc. Why do you imply that a programmer is a "professional"? I suppose it confers respectability on a task-oriented job, but (speaking for myself) programming is a skill I mastered sometime in my teens, while the skills that keep me employed were hard-learned over the past 12 years. Isn't "young white collar worker" an oxymoron? Except in the bubble days of 1999, when 24-year-old leather-pant-wearing CEOs were honored guests on CNBC's Power Lunch, executive jobs have been the province of those greybeards who paid their dues and deftly avoided self-imposed career disasters. Have you considered that the continued transformation of the economy might be a good thing?