To: Krowbar who wrote (535607 ) 2/5/2004 2:58:10 AM From: jmhollen Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670 I don't think you have a grip on the big picture. We don't need Utility sized projects, we need distributed energy coming from many, many sources - that don't go down when the grid takes a dump. The grid is currently the US's weak and most terrorist vulnerable link. I think wind power is great, if it's placed where it belongs according to the US Wind Energy Map. We have some large sites here in Iowa, and even some point source units powering single business owners. The CA wind stations are also correctly located, so they will serve well. They will not work worth a darn if they are sited incorrectly however, which is exactly what will happen if a bunch of tax-&-spend Demoncratic political hacks start shuffling the pork to put them on their home turf. If you want efficiency and reduced emissions however, AD, Hydro, Nukes and distributed Combined-cycle natural gas fired turbines are the way to go; the latter in peaking service and severable from the grid. There is also a new burner available, that I'm certain you're not aware of, that can burn Bunker-C and crushed grains or crop stubble cleaner than your Utility can burn Power River Basin coal. That will also mean that current utitlites can convert from their current burners, and burn low-quality coal cleaner than they can burn PRB right now. Smithfield incomplete....??? It's under bloody construction currently, so of course it's not online yet. It's new, but proven, technology and it will be rubber-stamped once they've gone through start-up and have the data to share with other interested parties. It will produce clean-burning and ultra-lubricating biodiesel for trucks and trains, etc.; while supporting large scale swine CAFO operations, providing excellent manure management, and protecting the water tables in the process. It isn't a grid power issue. Nobody said the pinwheels will ever go out of business; except for those where poor maintenace or stupid siting takes them down. But, I can build you several 24/7/365 quality power AD units for the price you'll pay to get half the kWH of the every-so-often wind power systems. Stay tuned, the times they are changin' , aye. John :-)