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To: gerard mangiardi who wrote (535780)	2/5/2004 10:31:30 AM
From: redfish	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

"You don't seem to have too much faith in marriage as a social institution." Many people don't see it ias a social institution, they see it as holy matrimony granted by God.

To: gerard mangiardi who wrote (535780)	2/5/2004 11:10:52 AM
From: Johannes Pilch	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

You don't seem to have too much faith in marriage as a social institution. No. I don't, and the effects "no fault" divorce has had on marriage supports my pessimism. When "no fault" divorce was first introduced, its opponents clearly stated that it would have a destructive impact on marriage and the health of the family. Proponents claimed it would help the family because, they said, 'a breakup is better than a dysfunctional family.' There is no doubt in my mind that the widespread social acceptance of no fault divorce has caused a general rejection of the contractual nature of marriage. Rather than society looking upon marriage as what it is in truth-- a vow, a promise, a contract in which two people swear unbreakable loyalty by oath (!) to both God and man, society sees marriage as a relationship much like all others. Whereas in the past divorce was looked upon as utter failure, a thing to be avoided like death, today it is quite an acceptable option to be used even when couples have 'irreconcilable differences' or when they fall out of "love." My God man, the real joy of marriage takes place exactly when you fall out of "love." But we have lost this wonderful truth. And our loss here has combined with our social pathologies to spread misery far deeper than it would otherwise have spread. Children, bright children, suffer more in school and in life because Dad is no longer home. Crime is greater, illegitimacy is greater, despair is greater. Because we have already fervently accepted the barbaric premises upon which these problems are based, we are blind to real solutions. The problems will only get worse. No one knows how to stop it. Gay unions have no impact on me my wife or kids. Divorce rates undermine the institution of marriage much more than gay unions. Hah! This is just stupid. To be sure, divorce rates have resulted of a barbaric premise about marriage; and that premise also allows society to accept such obviously flawed inhuman relationships as homosexual "unions." It all works together, Gerry. Divorce rates are not to be separated from homosexual marriage, but are instead disgusting results of a more fundamental wretchedness. We ought not treat them as things that are ultimately different from illegitimacy, from poor school performance, from teen suicide, from escalating crime rates, etc., etc., etc... They are all one utterly abominable thing.