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To: AK2004 who wrote (176901)	2/5/2004 7:15:43 PM
From: Noel	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 186894

undegraduate schools are just looking to give away scholarships to those who are interested in natural sciences and applied math Please do not generalize. When I was an ECE TA at a top state school, a lot of my students used to work half-time jobs because they were not funded. The good ones had scholarships which were not worth much. Most of them were burnt out at the end of four years and just did not see themselves going through more of the same in grad school. One problem is that a lot of financial aid nowadays is need-based. However, you have to be really poor to qualify. Another thing that surprised me during my graduate years was that some of my American colleagues were in debt because of educational loans. Being in research, I talk very often with professors at the top US schools. They, too, worry about the same -- undergraduate education at a top engineering school is just not affordable any more.

To: AK2004 who wrote (176901)	2/6/2004 3:09:32 AM
From: Amy J	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Albert, RE: "cost is not really essential" How many hours did you work when you were twelve years old? And was that time away from school studies? Also, did you work until 3AM every Sunday night when you were twelve years old, in addition to Friday, Saturday and weekday evenings? RE: "graduate programs are virtually free" You sound like you graduated before the 1990 recession, when government budgets cuts were negatively impacting professors' funding. The news is: RND funding has gone downhill over the past decade or so. Regards, Amy J