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To: Tommaso who wrote (16954)	2/8/2004 8:49:58 PM
From: Elroy Jetson	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 306849

America has serious structural problems caused by excessive debt, regardless of who is President. But I do agree many things would be better with a different team in the White House - fewer $200 billion searches for weapons, that don't exist, for one, and a much smaller deficit than the current half trillion dollar per year whopper.

To: Tommaso who wrote (16954)	2/9/2004 5:49:58 AM
From: Oblomov	Respond to of 306849

Flush the turd down the toilet? And just replace it with a new turd? How does this "uphold peaceful change"? Much drama and pageantry, little substance. Every four years I hear this same BS from the party out of power. Nothing ever "changes" for the better when "change" comes about. What "changed" under Clinton? What "changed" under Bush? To our politicians, "change" always means an increase in restrictions on liberty, less freedom for somebody. It inevitably means that you advocate coercing one person to pay for goodies given to another person. And pretending that the whole mess somehow fulfills the wishes of the founders of our "republic" (That's another word I hear every four years. But we haven't been a republic for what, 70 years or so?) Meanwhile, I maximize my happiness in spite of the government, avoiding it however I can by simply obeying it. But I'm hardly free in the sense that my grandfather once was. As the poet sang: life is good, be it stub- bornly long or suddenly A mortal splendor: meteors are not needed less than mountains: shine, perishing republic. But for my children, I would have them keep their distance from the thick- ening center; corruption Never has been compulsory, when the cities lie at the monster's feet there are left the mountains.