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To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (1264)	2/9/2004 11:08:32 PM
From: Bill Jackson	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 173976

Lizzie, not me, I have kids with jobs and hopes for College. I see the big problem with the economy as being set among these groups. 1 Civil servants(serpents, I call them) who are all union members. This is all city, state and federal employees and teachers. These people have inflation protected wages, Medical plans etc., that increase inexorably(never go down). The only job losses occur with new hires, and the old boys throw them away, citing seniority. California suffers from this badly. NY too. All those workers with contracts and increases and permanent jobs who care little for anyone but themselves 2 major unionised manufacturing jobs. Same effect. Those people are all overpaid and under worked. They represent the middle class. The lower class is all the rest of the workers. Group 1 is immune to offshore job transfer, for the most part, as they serve the public directly, and you cannot outsource their tasks to Indya(India to Americans). How to bring their wages down in line with the public client base who pays their wages? That is the problem. group 2 is losing jobs like crazy to China. The guys who do not lose their jobs are the ones that make $15-20 per hour and have an efficient modern factory. If there is 10 seconds labor in a part with high speed machines making it, then China cannot grab that job. China gets the factroies with old, slow machines and slow workers with fat wages and restrictive work rules. Rust belt USA stuff. Those guys get $50 per hour with perks and their places abound wiht restrictive work practices that leave labor utility at 50% or so. half the people wasting their time, makes the effective wages $100 per hour. Those guys = toast, and they are the ones complaining the most. An economy works when all have jobs and most get simliar wages so what one makes, another can buy. With a small % in supervisory roles getting higher wages that's fine. With 15% getting union wages paid for by taxes and another 15% the same in factories, that 30% is about 50% of the wages in the economy. the other 70% get the other 50% of wages, leaving them with about half the disposable income as the state and union workers. This is a major part of the problem. North east states have even higher ratios and people are abandoning homes in Buffalo NY due to taxes. Same happened in Newark and other parts on New York. Eventually people move out. Bill