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To: hmaly who wrote (182363)2/10/2004 12:09:55 AM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1578011
 
Ted Re..This all happened under the Reagan/Bush administrations......you know on the video when you see Rumsfeld shaking hands with Saddam.......

You know as well as I a lot of countries, including the US sold both conventional and WMD to Saddam during the period from 1980 to 1990.


Yes, but you were saying that the Germans were the only ones that were benefiting from Saddam.

However, at that time the US had a working relationship with Saddam.

Please explain to me why we had a working relationship with Saddam......a known terrorist? And why aren't you upset about it?

That changed suddenly in 91 when Iraq invaded Kuwait. After the 91 gulf war, when it was learned how massive Iraq's WMD program was, it was decided to make Iraq get rid of its WMD weapons as part of the truce. As you stated most of it happened during the Reagon and Bush senior administrations. However, those administrations were over in 92. Germany however, continued to sell massive amounts of WMD to Iraq, against the UN sanctions imposed after the Gulf war.

How could they have when the weapons inspectors were making
Saddam destroy his WMD after 1992......and as we all now know there are no more WMD in Iraq. So where were all the alleged German parts going? Your accusation does not make sense from a chronological point of view. Is this some more of your fiction?

The US mostly stopped. And that is Germany's big problem. They voted, along with the US and most other nations for the UN sanctions, however, Germany kept on selling WMD in secret.

When they indict Germany, I will believe this latest neocon concoction.

From Asia Times.

Friedbert Pflueger, foreign policy spokesman of the main opposition Christian Democratic parties and an embittered critic of Schroeder's and Foreign Minister Joschka Fischer's Iraq policy, last Thursday accused the red-green coalition government of deliberately keeping the German and world public uninformed of BND (German foreign intelligence service) evidence and assessments on the continued existence of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction (WMDs). "If we trust our [intelligence] services, and I do, then we know that there exist weapons of mass destruction in Iraq," said Pflueger, and referred to a November 13, 2002, BND briefing of members of parliament's foreign affairs committee in which relevant information was disclosed.


And there is this.

Pflueger is a die hard conservative....was this when he ran against Schroeder in the last national elections before the war?



In the summer of 1994, the BND conducted a major study to estimate the magnitude of the - as at that time - still undeclared and concealed Iraqi WMD arsenal, relying on sales records in its possession of post-Gulf War German, Austrian, and Swiss exports of technologies, sub-systems and strategic materials to Iraq. It concluded that these exports pointed to several specific weapons programs, ranging from ballistic missile upgrades to poison gas manufacture, which Iraq had not declared and UN inspectors were unaware of and hence, not surprisingly, had failed to discover. While the magnitude of the current (1994) Iraqi weapons program "is difficult to assess", said the BND, there is no doubt that "some of the material and equipment" has eluded discovery and certain projects "are being revived and run clandestinely".

That was 1994......the weapons inspectors did not leave Iraq until 1997 or 1998. A lot happened in those 3-4 years.

You are working too hard to disparage one of our most important allies. Why?