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Politics : America Under Siege: The End of Innocence -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Richnorth who wrote (24218)	2/13/2004 9:27:55 PM
From: lorne	Respond to of 27666

lil ritchie you said...." Unfortunately, folks like you and others seem to be obsessed with using me as a whipping boy for the excruciating psychological pain "9/11" had inflicted on you all. And so when presumptuous/pompous/arrogant/unreasonable.... folks (and those trying or pretending to be such for whatever perverse reason) went all out to insult and rile me, I responded in kind. Shit for shit and acid for acid! I must admit I do enjoy giving back in kind and yanking the chains of those who attacked me gratuitously. On hindsight, I notice that many of these attacks stemmed from misunderstanding/misperception/ignorance/etc & etc.".... Here is a statement from you on Sept.11 2001 and at this time it was not known just how many innocent people were murdered. Please explain how this may have been misunderstood. To:long-gone who wrote (76030) From: Richnorth Tuesday, Sep 11, 2001 11:27 AM View Replies (2) \| Respond to of 97256 Ya right! But, for now, Ben Ladin and Saddam and others like them must be having VBG !!! LOL !!!, and ROFLTAO !!! The US must act fast and STOP them for good !!! Message 16330885

To: Richnorth who wrote (24218)	2/13/2004 9:37:32 PM
From: lorne	Respond to of 27666

lil ritchie. You said....." Unfortunately, folks like you and others seem to be obsessed with using me as a whipping boy for the excruciating psychological pain "9/11" had inflicted on you all. And so when presumptuous/pompous/arrogant/unreasonable.... folks (and those trying or pretending to be such for whatever perverse reason) went all out to insult and rile me, I responded in kind. Shit for shit and acid for acid! I must admit I do enjoy giving back in kind and yanking the chains of those who attacked me gratuitously. On hindsight, I notice that many of these attacks stemmed from misunderstanding/misperception/ignorance/etc & etc. ".... Here is a post from you on Sept. 11 2001. At this time is was not known just how many innocent people were murdered by radical islam. Please explain how this may have been misunderstood? To:svenlar who wrote (76087) From: Richnorth Tuesday, Sep 11, 2001 7:07 PM View Replies (6) \| Respond to of 97256 Have you ever lived abroad and seen how Americans behaved there, especially in Asia in the late 60s and 70s? A cocky bunch of folks !!! Have you ever heard of the term "UGLY AMERICAN" being applied to almost any American citizen? especially in the 60s and 70s? In fact a book entitled "The Ugly American" was written by an American observer and it explains that epithet. The Vietnam experience was humbling but the media took pains to make the US withdrawal look like an "honorable" thing. The Somali experience was humbling, too, but the news media gave it scant coverage so that many Americans hardly noticed what had happened. Way back in Reagen's time, Americans in the Middle East were warned by Israel's Mossad (it had uncovered the death-dealing plot while looking for something else) that their soldiers' lives were in danger of a Palestinian attack. The cocky Americans dismissed the Mossad intelligence, apparently thinking they knew better and could overcome anything. That was until a suicide Palestinian crashed, about a week later, his explosives-laden truck into an American army depot and blew lots of soldiers sky high. Of course, shortly after that, the US retaliated by slamming "smart" rockets into the killers' rocky hideouts. (Israelis are using similar tactics these days.) When the dust of the present tragedy clears, I believe there will be much finger-pointing regarding lax American security in America. Many will ask why the #1 nation (and policeman) of the world failed to foresee and avert such a mind-boggling catastrophe. Perhaps the smugness and self-complacency of the Americans will be recognized for the first time? Message 16334370

To: Richnorth who wrote (24218)	2/13/2004 9:43:07 PM
From: lorne	Respond to of 27666

lil ritchie. You said....." Unfortunately, folks like you and others seem to be obsessed with using me as a whipping boy for the excruciating psychological pain "9/11" had inflicted on you all. And so when presumptuous/pompous/arrogant/unreasonable.... folks (and those trying or pretending to be such for whatever perverse reason) went all out to insult and rile me, I responded in kind. Shit for shit and acid for acid! I must admit I do enjoy giving back in kind and yanking the chains of those who attacked me gratuitously. On hindsight, I notice that many of these attacks stemmed from misunderstanding/misperception/ignorance/etc & etc. ".... Here is a post from you on Sept.11 2001. at this time it was not known just how many innocent people were murdered by radical islam. Please explain just how this may have been misunderstood? To:Darleen Shurgot who wrote (76094) From: Richnorth Tuesday, Sep 11, 2001 10:31 PM Respond to of 97256 Trouble is that after the end of the Cold War, the US relaxed its watchfulness. It is laughable to say that the US believe that other people respect the sacredness of life as much as we do. Surely the experiences of America in WWII, Vietnam and Korea and Bosnia will have convinced every one of us that that is not true. Somebody on TV tonight reiterated my viewpoint that America has been overly complacent, and the price of that was a big kick in the butt. Message 16335555

To: Richnorth who wrote (24218)	2/13/2004 9:48:17 PM
From: lorne	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 27666

lil ritchie. You said....." Unfortunately, folks like you and others seem to be obsessed with using me as a whipping boy for the excruciating psychological pain "9/11" had inflicted on you all. And so when presumptuous/pompous/arrogant/unreasonable.... folks (and those trying or pretending to be such for whatever perverse reason) went all out to insult and rile me, I responded in kind. Shit for shit and acid for acid! I must admit I do enjoy giving back in kind and yanking the chains of those who attacked me gratuitously. On hindsight, I notice that many of these attacks stemmed from misunderstanding/misperception/ignorance/etc & etc. ".... Here is a post from you on Sept.11 2001. at this time it was not known just how many innocent people were murdered by radical islam. To:svenlar who wrote (76092) From: Richnorth Tuesday, Sep 11, 2001 10:42 PM View Replies (1) \| Respond to of 97256 But one thing is certain: Americans are not perfect and would have fared better to have been a little less cocky. Message 16335631