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To: d[-_-]b who wrote (182781)	2/16/2004 12:41:46 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1576613

re:Guaranteed there are many more that I can't anticipate You ignore the possibility Iraq will emerge as a powerful semi-democratic country and destablize those non-democratic governments that need reform and help to put an end to ME terrorism. Its telling that you reference Iraq as a potentially "-semi-democratic country", "semi" being the operative word. First, its hard for a country to be partially democratic. Secondly, that comment reflects our dampened down expectations as the war's frustrations have increased during the past few months.

To: d[-_-]b who wrote (182781)	2/16/2004 1:26:08 PM
From: Road Walker	Respond to of 1576613

Erik, re: ME stability has never been that high, they can barely agree on any single issue other than Israel must die. It's been US policy to keep the ME stable for years, and it's worked. The new policy is not just "nation building", but "region building". Not only is this agenda anti-conservative, it carries huge inherent risk. re: Terrorism has been increasing for years Not really. Go back to the early 80's and look at what was going on in European cities, Paris cafe's and London's subway. 9/11 made it seem that way, but there have still been only 2 terrorist acts on US soil, both implemented by the same guy. re: An organization looking for a reason to exist now with the Soviets defeated. Again, short sighted. NATO was growing and becoming more of a stabilizing force. It could have been an weapon to combat terrorism, but it's been marginalized by bad diplomacy. re: It's not world wide and it was there before the war, nothing the USA does ever pleases everyone. We can't even make the people on this thread happy. No. Politically we were very well respected, and had the sympathy of the world after 9/11. All that goodwill has been spent and reversed. re: You ignore the possibility Iraq will emerge as a powerful semi-democratic country and destablize those non-democratic governments that need reform and help to put an end to ME terrorism. Given the long history of democracies in the ME, I think thats a long shot. We may have been the catalyst that will eventually reshape many borders, and cause many thousands of deaths, and if the ME oil supply is cut off, cause a REAL recession, not the slow down we just experienced. We are not omnipotent. We can't walk in and say "be a democracy" in a world where that has no meaning, and expect it to happen. I think the questions is not if things will break bad, but just how bad it will be. Bush has been entirely reckless with our foreign policy, and with our economy. He's a dangerous man. John