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To: tejek who wrote (183113)	2/20/2004 1:35:27 AM
From: Amy J	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1576974

Tejek, RE: " Sorry, I meant 'common enough', not normal." Not sure if you are fully aware of how your blanket statements read, "Its normal" and "India is a sick, sick country." That's a huge, all-encompassing, sweeping statement. This probably said it clearer than my attempts: "you should be careful to not paint the entire country with such a broad brush. Sick practice not sick country." Message 19825098 RE: "What makes you think your sampling is anything but anecdotal?!" Because of the nature of the contacts, two whose jobs would put them into a position of knowing better than Dateline. You claimed Dateline said it was the "norm." RE: "what kind of country is India that requires the parents of the bride to come up with huge dowries" What kind of country is the USA that encourages some women to be anorexic? A dowry certainly sounds infinitely more humane than anorexia. RE: "Come on, Amy, do you think I am naive enough to believe all Indians are bad." No, I actually don't think you did. You're generally a thoughtful person that doesn't paint an entire country as bad. And if you accidently do, I think it's more because you're thinking one thing but typing another. But even unintended, you don't seem to be aware of how your blanket statement reads. And when Eric pointed it out, your reply was surprising and you continued to say it was "very much the norm." That's a broad brush you sweep with. RE: "Unfortunately, there is enough bad going on that its disturbing." That's a very balanced and accurate statement and is a much better description of the situation than "it's the norm and India is a sick country." RE: "Not all men rape women but is it wrong to discuss the issue and say you do not like those men who do?" Of course not and it's absolutely well-worth discussing, and that's unrelated to my point about how a blanket statement "India is a sick sick country" isn't an effective way to make a point because it reads like it's implying 100% of the people in India are sick, even though you didn't intend to say that. RE: "This article says that 7k women DIED from dowry murders and suicides in 1996" Tejek, every day four women die in our country as a result of domestic violence. That's 5k when normalized to India's population. This figure doesn't even include suicides. We have problems here too, which is another reason why blanket statements don't work too well. Also, in the USA, approximately "17 percent of pregnant women report having been battered, and the results include miscarriages, stillbirths and a two to four times greater likelihood of bearing a low birth weight baby." now.org "BATTERING . 572,000 reports of assault by intimates are officially reported to federal officials each year, the most conservative estimates indicate two to four million women of all races and classes are battered each year. At least 170,000 of those violent incidents are serious enough to require hospitalization, emergency room care or a doctor's attention. SEXUAL ASSAULT . Every year approximately 132,000 women" in the USA ............. RE: "And isn't Bangalore the hi tech capital from where so many Indians are emigrating to the Silicon Valley?" It appears you are presumptuously assuming my reach only goes as far as Bangalore, which is incorrect. RE: "Frankly, Amy, I am surprised at your effort to make it seem like the issue has been over dramatized by American media." The issue I pointed out is your blanket statement swipes at all Indians. It gives the appearances of being uninformed. To claim it is the norm for Indians is inaccurate sensationalism. To claim it happens too much is accurate and factual. The pain these people go through can never be over dramatized. We have Trauma Centers in the USA for gunshot victims, does that make it a norm in the USA? No, only in certain areas. RE: "Amy, please don't tell me what I know and don't know. You hardly know me nor my life experiences. In fact, how dare you be so presumptuous?!" I specifically said, "You appear to be passing judgement from a viewpoint" The word "appear" is about your blanket statement that gives a certain appearance that you probably didn't intend. RE: " On another note, does anyone know the economic policies of Edwards and Kerry? Or, is that too boring of a topic? Maybe people would prefer to discuss political dirt, rather than economic solutions. And maybe the news media is forced to echo their readers' interests. Why the sarcasm?" Sorry for the sarcasm. It would be nice if you helped encouage the thread to hunt down some informative posts on the candidate's domestic position? I'm not finding much. In the past, your thread has been most useful in providing candidates' domestic positions. None of the candidates have given a clear articulation of their economic domestic plans. Knowing this information is an important part of the voting process. Voters need to know the candidates' positions on the USA, not just Iraq. You said Iraq was just a diversion from our own domestic problems, so am hoping to see some posts on the candidates economic positions. Message 19811750 "There's a lot of news about war & Iraq, but nothing significant about the candidates' domestic positions." Regards, Amy J