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To: Road Walker who wrote (183300)	2/22/2004 6:06:21 PM
From: hmaly	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1575907

John Re...The same folks that burn gas at more than double the required rate cause their SUV makes them feel dominant on the road. LOL Be careful who and what you bash, you just might be voting for him, unless you are voting for GW. http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=12076 Kerry lives in a mansion on Beacon Hill on which he has borrowed $6 million to finance his campaign. A fire hydrant that prevented him and his wife from parking their SUV in front of their tony digs was removed by the city of Boston at his behest. washingtonpost.com Elizabeth Pageotte pushed through a swarm of news media so she could introduce her young children to the man she planned to vote for. Edwards responded with a wide smile and bent down to greet the family. "It's great to see everybody," he beamed, before jumping into an SUV and driving on. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ultimatly, the reason we will have a hard time getting to energy independence is the selfish folks that will never put in solar panels cause they are too lazy to clean them. John, you are misreading my position. I didn't say I was against solar power. I just said putting them on your roof was a bad idea, because of the routine maintenance they required. Solar though has a much bigger problem, than cleaning, and that is hazardous waste. All solar systems use hazardous chemicals to build them, and also the batteries needed to store the energy, can be massive, expensive, need to be replaced regularily, and can't be put in a dump. You want to decry the nuclear waste, while solar has 1000 times the hazardous waste. That said, there are situations, where solar's problems are outweighed by solar's benefits, such as remote areas. Solar will fill a niche, not go mainstream.

To: Road Walker who wrote (183300)	2/22/2004 6:31:57 PM
From: SilentZ	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1575907

>Ultimatly, the reason we will have a hard time getting to energy independence is the selfish folks that will never put in solar panels cause they are too lazy to clean them. Why don't they put a "windshield wiper" mechanism on them? Ovens self-clean, electric razors self-clean, why can't solar-panels be made to do the same? -Z

To: Road Walker who wrote (183300)	2/23/2004 11:57:49 AM
From: d[-_-]b	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1575907

John, re:the reason we will have a hard time getting to energy independence is the selfish folks that will never put in solar panels cause they are too lazy to clean them Oh, I thought it was because solar panels don't make sense in every situation. Or that they just aren't economically viable in most instances or they'd be all over the place. If cleaning the damn things was such a big deal, we'd have illegals retire from gardening and cleaning the panels in your neighborhood. Besides I doubt there exists enough surface area on most homes to provide for enough power generation to be self sufficient let alone contribute to a grid. Also, what do these things weigh, can most existing roofs handle the load? How do they attach to shingle, or tile roofs? What does one do every 20 years when they need to re-roof? What's the clearance above the existing roof, in wet climates does it create a green house under them encouraging organic growth, causing the roof to age prematurely? Are we going to spend more fixing our roofs, how do they mount to the roof without causing leaks? What about high wind storm conditions? Do they create air foils of themselves? I think you over simplify and are to quick to blame, if you were really a home owner you'd ask more questions.