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To: Berry Picker who wrote (36559)	2/23/2004 10:18:15 AM
From: alan w	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Keep trying Alan - someday you will see that he is merely saying that it is possible even for kings and those in authority could be saved That statement is completely unbiblical and you know it. In your earlier post you correctly affirmed that God and God alone determines who will believe. You also stated correctly that God is not a God who merely tries. *God does not try, God does. Now you’re saying that it is merely possible. The only thing possible is the sovereign will of God. And He has determined from before the foundation of the world what will happen. And He declared in 1 Timothy that He will have all men to be saved and come to a knowledge of the truth.* “Merely possible” doesn’t come close to being the truth spoken of here in 1 Timothy. God has not declared that all will be saved during the ages. If God hasn't declared it, it can't possibly happen. Matthew 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. “Workers of inequity” are only that way temporarily. Matthew 16:21-23 21 From that time forth began Jesus to show unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day. 22 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee. 23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offense unto me: for thou savorest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men. Christ called His beloved Peter “satan” here. Peter was in this instance a worker not in the things of God, but those that be of man. Was he permanently “an offense” to Christ? Was there no hope for Peter? Of course, Christ was not speaking of a permanent condition here. That’s what I’m trying to tell you, ungodliness is not permanent. Ungodliness is temporary. At the end of the ages, all forms of ungodliness will be done away with.(See 1 Corinthians 15:22-28 and Hebrews 9:26 among others) Romans 5:6 6 For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. “Workers of inequity” were exactly who Christ died for. 11 For there is no partiality with God, (Romans 2:11) He died for all “workers of inequity”. 1 Timothy 2:5&6 5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; 6 who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time. Verse 6 first says that Christ “gave himself a ransom for all”, and then it clarifies when all will be saved: eventually, or “in due time”. Not everyone at once. He never said that all would believe during the ages. But He did say that eventually He would have all to be saved and come to a knowledge of the truth. The final state for us is found in 1 Corinthians 15:28 where it says that after Christ’s work is finished, God will be “all in all”. That is God’s plan for creation. To be all in all. Absolutely everthing else is a part of the process that will make God "all in all". alan w