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To: unclewest who wrote (32584)	3/2/2004 5:06:41 AM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793609

Unclewest, the French have supported the USA. The USA was vigorously opposed to New Zealand's anti-noocular laws and noocular-free zones of 1983's new Labour government. Greenpeace was protesting French nuclear bomb tests at Mururoa atoll and had called into Auckland harbour en route. Francois Mitterand, Charles Hernu and co sent some frog men [and a frog woman] by submarine and on a yacht and with an inflatable boat to bomb and sink the Rainbow Warrior, which they did, killing a photographer. I believe the attack was not just to show Greenpeace what they could expect, but to give New Zealand a show of what happens to people who aren't "with us" on nuclear weapons. They are "against us" and shall have terrorist attacks conducted against them. France didn't claim credit for the attack and it was only because they were spotted and with some police work that a couple of them were caught. I would not be in the slightest surprised to find that the French weren't acting with the agreement of the USA and Britain who were both wanting to show New Zealand a thing or two about the consequences of choosing to be nuclear free [it was a democratic decision of New Zealand, but apparently USA, British and French support for democracy is very limited... snicker]. So, you see the French have supported the USA in at least one conflict, courageous heroes that they are - sinking a Greenpeace boat. It's ironic that New Zealand refused to have weapons of mass destruction on the premises and now the USA is demanding that countries not have them on their premises. Okay, okay. We agree at last. Welcome to the club. The USA is slow to get with the programme. Americans have even cut down support for IRA terrorism. Seeing the carnage at Omagh and 30 years of murder and mayhem wasn't enough to persuade them. It took a couple of buildings in New York coming down for them to figure out that terrorism isn't a good thing to support. Better late than never. One of these days, they'll catch up with the idea that a reconstituted United Nations would be a good idea and they'll get with that programme too. Mqurice

To: unclewest who wrote (32584)	3/2/2004 1:07:21 PM
From: J_F_Shepard	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793609

re:"French have been our great ally twice...Both times the Germans were sitting in Paris drinking cognac by day " Were the Germans in Paris in WWI? The French sent a full division to Gulf War 1 re"The bias began when the French stood against us in Vietnam...That of course was after they got their ass kicked at Dien Bien Phu " Maybe they remembered that we didn't come to their aid at Dien Bien Phu or the Suez Canal invasion.