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To: Tom Clarke who wrote (32616)	3/2/2004 9:53:40 AM
From: John Carragher	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793670

on imus this morning a nypost reporter said nyc and new york are stuck on gay issues , afraid to take any type of action. over 500,000 gay activists in nyc alone who control a lot of dollars for political campaigns. It is like the the ny state government is frozen over what to do if anything. attorney general who is so quick to lock up corp executives on friday was against the gay marriage and was asked by governor to do something has since backed away from the issue.

To: Tom Clarke who wrote (32616)	3/4/2004 1:00:52 AM
From: PartyTime	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793670

>>> So what I'm saying is this: Don't believe what you read. Don't accept the analysis you hear on television. The inability of the political press to take the full measure of the 2004 election and the American electorate is already one of the biggest stories of the year, and the failure is only going to deepen.<<< Are you certain your writer wasn't writing about the Iraq War instead of the '04 elections?

To: Tom Clarke who wrote (32616)	3/4/2004 11:03:38 AM
From: Neeka	Read Replies (5) \| Respond to of 793670

We had dinner with a young democrat last night. We had an open and lively discussion about GWB. We asked her to try to explain why liberals hate GWB......she couldn't.....but she did admit that she was capable of hatred. THAT certainly did lead to a provocative discussion. She is absolutely convinced that the "war on terror" has been overblown and that 9/11 was "an isolated incident, conducted by average criminals, that had little impact on America overall." I was rather stunned by that statement. WMD was her big issue and the "lie" surrounding their existence. When I asked her what she thought about the David Kay report, she didn't know who he was, She also didn't know anything about the A. Q. Khan network. I've promised to send her some information and to keep her regularly updated on this subject. It's a shame that liberals don't fully educate and inform their young ones with all of the facts before they send them out on their own to defend their position. That remote possibility would have made for an interesting discussion. M

To: Tom Clarke who wrote (32616)	3/4/2004 3:59:16 PM
From: KLP	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793670

Most interesting piece, Charleymane. I have a rant this morning as well. The piece you posted made me more aware of my uneasiness. I think John Podhoretz is correct..... My rant, for whatever it's worth. The media seem to all be the same...the people doing the pontificating look the same, they parrot the same words, the magazines seem to all tell the same story. They are all trying, by mandate from their owners, to raise controversy and verbal mayhem in an effort to sell ads at greater dollars per second, or actual printed copy circulation, therefore raising the cost of the sponsoring ads. Many of us see through this. More of us need to. Gay marriage? Who cares, and why? It is currently against the law in many places. If one doesn't like the law, there are ways to change the law. Can elected officials break the law any time they choose? Can anyone else in society break the law of the society without consequence? For the people who are constantly harping about the lack of jobs... More and more jobs are advertised in the local papers. If they are advertised, there is an opening. Are the people who are complaining about the lack of jobs applying to any of these? If not, why not? Where do the people who are complaining about the lack of jobs think the jobs come from in the first place? Perhaps some of them should pool their money and start new ventures. Then they too can work 20 hours a day, pay expenses, hopefully have enough money for payroll and of course, taxes. And maybe have enough to take home a bit for themselves. Or do they really believe the Government really creates jobs?? Or any President??? Just shows all of us what isn't being taught in school. Re TV ads for politics. Do the Democrats think that 9-11 didn't exist? What other President did we have then? President G W Bush did an excellent job when 9-11 happened. We all could feel more comfortable realizing that we had a capable leader for all Americans. The Democrats, because of the speeches, and onslaught onto the talk shows by their leaders, seem to wish we were back in those days. As for the survivors of 9-11 people who were murdered that day. I'm sorry, but feel that most of the survivors have been financially compensated, certainly when one compares the financial compensation, OR THE LACK OF IT, that any of the survivors of our military receive. Perhaps John Kerry could show some of the pictures of him that were taken during that time. Certainly he, as a Senator, was doing something of value to the community. Wasn't he? Events of 9-11 don't just belong to those survivors. The events belong to ALL Americans. Unfortunately. I for one, would like the media, both visual and written, to identify the actual numbers of people "THEY" say are "saying" whatever it is they quote them as saying. I no longer believe the words ...."there are a growing number of people...", or "several people say".....or anything similar "Made Up Group Think". I want to hear actual quotes from actual people.