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To: gamesmistress who wrote (33125)	3/6/2004 3:45:42 AM
From: unclewest	Respond to of 793905

I liked this response... "So Teresa's money makes JFK the Prince of Tides." LOL!!! “Peaceful Tomorrows” is the anti-war September 11 victim group often seen onstage at International ANSWER rallies, and their representatives have been quoted (usually without any context) in nearly every story about President Bush’s new advertisements. Would you be terribly surprised to discover that, according to their web site, Peaceful Tomorrows is a project of the Tides Center—the far left funding group to which Teresa Heinz Kerry has given millions of dollars?

To: gamesmistress who wrote (33125)	3/6/2004 3:56:54 AM
From: unclewest	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793905

according to their web site, Peaceful Tomorrows is a project of the Tides Center—the far left funding group to which Teresa Heinz Kerry has given millions of dollars? They are certainly tied together. I found this at the website... By Check Contributions by check can be made out to 'Peaceful Tomorrows/Tides Center' and sent to:

To: gamesmistress who wrote (33125)	3/6/2004 7:31:10 AM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793905

Sen. Orrin Hatch is introducing his own constitutional amendment That's interesting wording. I like it--it simply protects against judicial activism re the US Constitution--but I wouldn't think that those actively opposed to gay marriage would like it one little bit.

To: gamesmistress who wrote (33125)	3/6/2004 9:22:36 AM
From: Rambi	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793905

I am reading a sort of odd but fascinating book about Jefferson titled, Jefferson's Demons- Portrait of a Restless Mind. THe author is attempting to bridge the divide between the old idealized rational Jefferson and the modern tarnished, talked the talk but didn't walk the walk man, to understand what drove him spiritually and emotionally. Anyway, when I saw your prediction of a backlash, and the Hatch proposal, it reminded me of something Jefferson said to Madison: I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as it is a storm in the physical. The author says that when Jefferson "bowed reverently before the laws of nature and of Nature's God" in the Declaration, he was not talking about a benign force, but something that could be brutal. He believed that man was driven by a "pugnacious humor" to struggle and reproduce like the cocks in the henyard who kill each other. I like Orrin Hatch's proposal since it returns the issue to the states and the legislature. This issue will be messy, but no one can read history and arrive at the conclusion that rebellion and change are ever anything but, no matter how nobly or intellectually you couch the terms. Jefferson understood that. That's interesting about the relatives speaking out being politically motivated. Nothing is pure and I guess that's what makes the sensitivity line so blurry.

To: gamesmistress who wrote (33125)	3/6/2004 9:49:20 AM
From: michael97123	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793905

Many new yorkers are liberals and the anti-bush in them extends to bashing him for using wtc images--even the survivors. And when in nyc and visiting the site they will come out to boo him. Of course each of the survivors has a $500,000 check in their pocket thanks to the Bush admin, but lets not remember that either. If Clinton were president and he used such footage or came to town, same folks would be cheering. Nothing has offended me more that people being offended by those ads. Read the letters to the editor in the Times today--it will make you sick. But they DO NOT represent what most americans think or even what most survivors think. The Bush campaign is like a train just building up some speed. Those ads are part of it and i cant wait for the kerry/wishy/washy/flip/flop ads on the way. Read the kerry flip flop article in the NYT. Is he a flip flopper or is he a brooding intellectual weighing the merits of each issue ad nauseum? I dont much care. Either disqualifies him from executive office. Stay in the senate John. Mike