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To: Bilow who wrote (125735)	3/7/2004 9:36:17 PM
From: NightOwl	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

We need to create a world diplomatic environment very different from the "superpower takes all" version that Bush has been working on. The numbers are not in our favor. -- Carl P.S. And by the way, our foreign policy should not be one that depends even on a "slam dunk", LOL. Carl, If I weren't on strike now I'd have to ask where China is going to get the oil to grease their great leap over our increasingly ignorant and uneducated heads. Then I'd have to ask how they could have managed to get such supplies without gobbling up some poor innocently backwards oil rich country whose Fantasy Ideologues insist on having all that oil and nucleonics too. And then, if I got answers to these poor and innocent questions, I'd have to write 5K words to explain why I asked these questions in the first place so that no one would mistake me for a Fantasy Ideologue and try to carpet bomb me into submission. But I am on strike. So I don't have to do any of this. 0\|0 Not paid for by anybody because all the paychecks are going over seas.

To: Bilow who wrote (125735)	3/7/2004 10:29:58 PM
From: Sig	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 281500

<<<Our high tech jobs are rapidly leaving the country. Where are they migrating to? Places like India, which is now writing software for Microsoft:>>>> They can have our technology jobs and many now ancient activities such as metal-forming, factory robots, chip making, plating,paint formulas, TV sets, electronics. What do we have left? Supertech - satellites, Qualcom, radar, imaging, cosmic ray capture,measurement of gravity waves. SETI. Macrotech - NASA.Space stations and exploration, the B-2's, world-wide weather and earthquake monitoring, nuclear fusion reactors. Particle colliders Biotech- Vaccines, genetically engineered plants, human replacement part culture Microtech- Intel, Ibm, and LU developing ever smaller and faster electronics, TV and FM on a chip, fiberoptics Nanotech- Carbon fibers, catalysts,fuel cells, fexible LCD panels, self-replicating machines. Its too early to worry, we are set to lead in ultra-techs for another 20+ years. The threat is not imminent(g) But the job loss is a threat to both candidates so do not expect to get any accurate figures from the Press. I have heard it said that while losing some jobs, we have actually gained up to 2mm that are not being counted Why is our unemployment rate under 6% while Germany is around 12% ? Sig

To: Bilow who wrote (125735)	3/8/2004 8:40:48 AM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Since I addressed most of these points last week, I will not repeat myself. I will say that you misinterpret my reference to "slam dunk" (I said it was not a "slam dunk", which means it is not a sure thing), as you usually misinterpret what I say. I will also note that there is nothing to your accusation that Bush has a "superpower takes all" perspective. Takes all of what? Your overall point is meaningless. Yes, they "catch up" in individual departments, but overall, we remain the pace- setters. In that sense, they have never caught up, because we are always moving on to the new thing. I acknowledge that might not always be the case, but your demographic superstition has little to do with it. How have their sizes made India or China superpowers up to this point? Of course, they have not, because it is not a matter of human aggregation, but of the culture and infrastructure to create "human capital" and put it to productive use. These countries still have masses of people who are not even especially part of the modern world.......