To: Raymond Duray who wrote (45706 ) 3/9/2004 2:42:24 AM From: IQBAL LATIF Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 50167 Dear Raymond, On your <<I can't accept the title to being either hyper-intelligent or being a fool. What I'm willing to admit to is an almost obsessive desire to process and analyze the "news of the day" and the strategy of great institutions like our U.S. government and the multinational corporations.>> Obsessions are dangerous, these obsessive desires can lead to unmitigated disasters, I don’t know how you make yourself feel good to analyse and read too much into little happening’s like this observation of yours (On the day of 9/11 Israeli nationals were caught in a wild celebration at a park across the Hudson River in New Jersey and after a couple weeks detention were allowed to return to Israel.) ). I can see why we both live in two different planets, I would not buy this too flimsy and self serving an evidence, this challenges the common sense of every American citizen and defies conventional wisdom that in country where a Presidency can be brought down by two journalists all this would be covered up and only Mr. Bush will master mind this cover up. Conspiracy is not a conspiracy if it is beyond a cabal of lunatics like Al Qaeda it is that heavenly returns that keeps the mouth shut it is those houries rewards that keeps them so happy ot walk up to fiery death, little do the realise that the houries will not have anything ot play with if the instrument is burnt completely as a result of 3000 degrees plus temperatures but that does not stop Ata to wear multiple level protections for his genitals as he took that plane in. That is quite cheeky to think of sex with houries even when on jihad only a lunatic of first order can do that this derangement that you have bought into. My analysis is based on general goodwill of mankind and my optimistic believes that we all are progressing towards a goal and popular good, that is how evolution has moved on, I have found in your posts a lot of knowledge and lot of info I have charged not even you once with some kind of attached with some supernatural agenda of course your natural inclinations to support Alqaeda or Mahajourooun stem from supporting oppressed communities for you these are oppressed people, like your favourite Mahajourooun had send two kids from UK ot blow themselves up in Israel/ Palestinian, now the other 5 Brits in Guantamono base are other five lunatics all products of Finsbury Park Mosque and exactly with this weird vision of conspiracies that you purport, this is a very much integral part of their lives, armed with these perverted misplacement of knowledge thy are ready to blow children up. Your obsessive compulsions more often than not has led you to charge me to work for DOD or CIA, now I don’t want to refute your point but I know myself, I know that I personally have not even tried to meet a single person in any US department anywhere in the world, mine is a attachment because what I see around me in my own country how perverted these extremists are, and how peace is breaking since these perverted fundos are under attack, I can see bridges between my two very poor nations, I can see Kashmir not being drenched with blood since clamp down has forced these fundos to unable to carry out blood orgies, now I also know that last summer when my mother died in Orlando I had to sit out like any other Paki for days to get a via to USA, also when I took that late flight ot NY I had to be separated questioned and grilled now this is reality and I see your imaginative senseless accusations against a very docile man like me, you tell people that Ike is unknown man, I have my pictures al over the web even my addresses are known even my posters visit me so many times, I have never written as Anonymous, my movements in all the countries are well known, if such an open character can be for you an agent and I know you know it well but your obsessions to drench people with colour overcomes your great innate goodness. All these accusation this can lead to serious assault on me in my own country and you have little respect for it and you keep repeating them, now such a lowly thing you make irrational choice so how can I trust your other analysis, for me your whole analysis is based unfortunately on fixation and passion for Islamic extremists fringe, may be you have Muslim feelings that I respect, you get very angry for no reason since you are highly intelligent, but your energies are being misplaced in wrong areas, I do engage with you since I like to know the opposite side view the more I know what you think the more I think that I am so far on the right path, but never I have felt that your obsession is based on personal gain or you are an agent I trust your intellectual honesty or dumbness whatever it is, you don’t trust my intellectual honesty now this is man to man, human to human and on this ground alone you are a lesser man, for not trusting someone who says what he is, if you can do that to a ordinary folks like us who have absolutely has no influence on anything beyond these few cyber threads I can imagines how bad you must be feeling for the President of USA who stands like a rock to fail your compulsive obsessions with these lunatics all over. Raymond, you know one thing I respect you from bottom of my heart but want you to know that wicket you play is the wicket that is a champions wicket, I know that may be 90% of my nation will love to watch you say and write, 90% will hate me and love to see me lynched to death but sometime I am so sure not to go with popular will it is sometime mentally misplaced and ideologically misinformed, freeing oneself from ideological moorings and getting to see the world from an independent aspect is other greatest freedom for me I would rather be in bad books of my own people than listen to this non sensible ideologues mutterings on conspiracies that don’t really exists. The irony of all this is that in my own nation we are considered heretics and agents you liberals who are the main core of American society now and the democrats consider us as misfits, for me no to be liked by mainstream like this is a success of my thought process, on many a things like Monica Lewinski scandal I went for Clinton discretions much as I felt hat he soiled the office I also felt that he had no control over his –ick ands had to be forgiven since we man are all alike when it comes to –icks, cutting through right and left and making realism and rationalism work is the art we need to follow that is my prescription of life, that is how I self reflect, good or bad I would hate anyone else to follow this out of force it is all about knowing one self and practising voluntary some of these things knowing well this he is not the all knowing. These are frivolous nature of ideological moorings that I work from, very banal very humane but are we not simple minds why to make every thing so complex?