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To: zonder who wrote (7793)	3/9/2004 10:49:35 AM
From: rrufff	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 20773

I have neither the time nor inclination to get into the nuances of what constitutes proper debate style on an internet board. I debate in the real world and am quite effective. On the internet, I respect those who are even handed, recognizing the good and bad. That's a premise in attempting to be moderate and limiting one's personal bias. Yet, there are some basic truths. For example, Al Queda, suicide tactics, targeting civilians with remote chance of hitting a military target are in the minds of most clear thinking humans wrong. US or Israeli policy, tactics and PR are certainly proper subject of debate. Yet, those who post in a vacuum, not recognizing the environment which creates the respective tactic, policy or PR, are being intellectually dishonest at best. I Did Not Draw No Parallels between Nazis and current day Israel. That Was Someone Else I assume you mean that you are not drawing parallels with current day Israel. I will accept that and would probably agree that tactics used early in Israel's history are not acceptable by today's standards. You often are critical of Israel or the US. I believe you have commented negatively on Israeli (and US) tactics and further commented that innocents are killed. My problem with that is that it does not recognize the environment of daily terror under which Israelis live. Further, your recent posts comparing soldiers who are teenagers with suicide bombers missed point of the poster to whom you had responded. That is, suicide bombers have no chance of surviving. Historically, they are brainwashed and troubled, used by fanatical religious or tyrannical purposes. Soldiers are not that despite your many posts, attempting to "draw parallels." If you want to deal in nuances to support your posts, then that is your choice. I suggest that most readers know the difference. You choose to waste several posts proving some sort of point that soldiers are similar to suicide bombers. The US in Iraq used weapons that caused billions to develop, weapons that specifically were intended to minimize civilian casualties. Yet, on this board, there is often criticism of civilian casualties as if the US intentionally wishes to inflict the same. Posters even drew parallels with the use of the A bomb by the US. The Hiroshima bombing is not acceptable given our knowledge of the world today. Yet that does not mean that Truman was evil and did not honestly believe he was doing the right thing. His killing of 100,000++ Japanese does not make him a mass murderer and does not create a parallel to compare Truman with Hitler, given the facts and knowledge of the times as the environment.