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To: philv who wrote (20347)	3/14/2004 3:40:58 PM
From: sea_urchin	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 81972

Phil > Look again. What a difference a week or a month makes. I just read that the big boys (Goldman & Morgan) are predicting $1.20 or less, Euro/Dollar Indeed so. Suddenly all doubts are forgotten. Debt is liquidated. Transgressions are forgiven. Jobs abound. But $1.20 isn't much of a move. What happens after that? Meanwhile it seems that Marc Faber was right, at least, partially. > I wonder what has changed, or is the US simply the best of a bad lot? Good for the traders....these huge swings are big profits for the inside boys. ...including, as I mentioned before, the Japanese who have made a fortune by buying the USD, selling Yen. And also buying US Treasuries. Meanwhile the stockmarket looks sick. Gold price and gold shares can't make up their mind. Certainly very difficult for ordinary mortals to make decisions under such circumstances. > On the political front, I wonder if the bombing will affect Spain's election. Must do, but I don't think in favor of Aznar's party. > Meantime, Colin Powell, says it is not clear if this was Al Quaeda. He is clearly trying to support the Spanish PM's statements. Sure, but do either have any credibility left? > ... any other event anywhere in the world is quickly assigned to Al Quaeda without hesitation. Saddam Hussein used to be the favorite fall guy, but that isn't possible anymore, so its back to big Bin. Amazing. Saddam had no WMDs and not much of an army but he was an immediate threat to the world. Osama is running for his life somewhere in the mountains of East Afghanistan but, nevertheless, he is able to mount a most sophisticated operation a few thousand miles away with perfect timing, high quality ordinance, using possibly 15 to 20 skilled operatives and state-of-the-art radio control. Of course, he never fails to leave his "visiting card", an assortment of weaponry and his "photo album". > It is so obvious this bombing was not carried out by the Basque Seperatists. I have no idea but it does seem most unlikely. How would they benefit? >Why would any organization plan and carry out such a massive evil scheme and then keep it a secret? There would be no gain if no one knew who did it. Besides, ETA have denied their involvement whereas a Muslim group claimed credit It is most unlikely that we will ever know who did it. We will only know what we are told. Meanwhile, we have no idea that the one who purports to "claim responsibility" is actually the one who did it because there are so many "false flag" operations. Indeed, it is very easy to "claim responsibility" for someone else, particularly an organization which can't speak for itself --- and which may not even exist. In my opinion, since there are so many unanswered questions as well as a persistent refusal to hold a proper inquiry, I hold the US administration, or someone close to it, responsible for 9-11, or at least complicit. In the circumstances, certainly until my suspicion is disproved, I feel much the same way about 3-11. > Give credit where credit is due I always say. How about this version? Cui prodest scelus, is fecit: "He who profits by villainy has perpetrated it." -- Seneca

To: philv who wrote (20347)	3/14/2004 5:14:13 PM
From: sea_urchin	Respond to of 81972

Phil > any other event anywhere in the world is quickly assigned to Al Quaeda without hesitation. I saw this description of Al Qaeda on another thread and I felt it deserved being mentioned here. As you well know, this is such an important organization but which no-one, other than the US government and a handful of self-appointed TV "experts", knows anything about. Message 19915528 >>>... they are super human Arabs, who live in caves. They have magical powers that allow them to slip through customs using their own names in spite of being on watch lists. No amount of active investigations will prevent their success, and no number of detailed reports from foreign intelligence specialists can foil their plans. They are able to turn invisible when boarding airplanes so their names don't appear on passenger lists, and they are also able to make weapons that would normally set off metal detectors appear out of thin air. They are instinctive jumbo jet pilots and are able to navigate unfamiliar air space with pinpoint accuracy. Some of them are able to engage in suicide missions and turn up alive and well at a later date. They are able to melt steel with kerosene, and can make buildings collapse at 32 feet per second per second no matter how much reinforcement is included in the design to resist the forces of gravity. They can even make an undamaged building turn to powder and go poof in a few seconds. Allah protects them and makes it impossible for the best air defense in the world to catch them, no matter how long it takes them to reach their targets. Their super powers include the ability to make evidence vanish, and they can create a magic barrier to keep their victims from ever finding out what happened. Their only known weakness is how much money they make for a hand full of their sworn enemies.<<<

To: philv who wrote (20347)	3/14/2004 6:43:42 PM
From: sea_urchin	Respond to of 81972

Phil > Why would any organization plan and carry out such a massive evil scheme and then keep it a secret? xymphora.blogspot.com >>>Sunday, March 14, 2004 The most likely candidates for the Madrid explosions are extreme right-wingers associated with both the Francoist edge of the governing conservative Popular Party - which is really more at the center than the edge as the party was founded by one of Franco's ministers who is still a major power in the party - and the Spanish military. I wouldn't call the Popular Party fascists, but some of their friends certainly are. It was not that long ago (1981) that these same people attempted a coup in Spain, and they are still a powerful force behind the scenes. <<<