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To: Neocon who wrote (126355)	3/16/2004 11:03:33 PM
From: Jacob Snyder	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

re: proposals about the trials of illegal combatants Here's how the just-released British-national Guantanamo inmates were treated: Guns were held to their heads during their questioning in Afghanistan by American soldiers, and physical abuse and beatings were rife. At this point, after weeks of near starvation as prisoners of the Northern Alliance, all three men were close to death. they endured three months of solitary confinement in Camp Delta's isolation block last summer after they were wrongly identified by the Americans as having been pictured in a video tape of a meeting in Afghanistan between Osama bin Laden and the leader of the 11 September hijackers Mohamed Atta. Ignoring their protests that they were in Britain at the time, the Americans interrogated them so relentlessly that eventually all three falsely confessed. They were finally saved - at least on this occasion - by MI5, which came up with documentary evidence to show they had not left the UK guardian.co.uk <The last I recall, their ultimate disposition was not clear.> Exactly. To keep things unclear forever, to delay for years, is itself an injustice. They have thrown all law, international and national, out the window, and are making it up as they go along. And doing so, very very slowly. <I would have to look at the situation of appeal> There are a number of important differences between military tribunals and civilian courts: convictions in civilian courts must be unanimous, while the military tribunals proposed by Mr Bush would be able to convict by a two-thirds majority; different rules of evidence apply, with lower standards for admission in military tribunals; defendants are not guaranteed the right to appeal against convictions in military tribunals; civilian trials must be open to the public, while military tribunals can be held in secret. 66.102.7.104