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To: michael97123 who wrote (35099)3/17/2004 1:15:38 PM
From: Ilaine  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793911
 
You cant even appease these guys.

Yes, that is the problem with appeasement, isn't it? It doesn't work.

One of the things we're also inclined to try is "live and let live." This also won't work with people who say "you love life but we love death."

We can't live with them (and by "them" I mean Islamofascists, not Muslims in general) and they won't let us live without them.

Western scientists (game theorists, economists, evolution biologists) seem to have concluded that the best evolutionary strategy is "tit for two tats" -- don't strike back on the first strike, because the first strike might have been an aberration, and striking back can be expensive in terms of lost life and property. This doesn't need to be followed, and shouldn't be followed, either, when it's clear that the first strike wasn't an aberration.

The American way of responding (at least now under President Bush) is to respond with overwhelming force, and crush them to dust. This is actually a very good strategy if you happen to have overwhelming force at your disposal, as we do.

This strategy, tit-for-tat, is good from an evolutionary point of view, but, as I said before, expensive. And it's really only effective if you are expecting the other side to cooperate.

In our situation with the Islamofascists, we really cannot expect them to cooperate. So what is the best strategy according to evolutionary theory or game theory?

Rolling over and playing dead, hoping they'll go away? That's what's going on in Spain, I guess we'll see how it works.

Striking first and striking hard? This is the new Bush administration strategy, which seems as if it should be worthwhile, But I wonder if anyone has actually gamed this out to see how it works in the long term?

I read somewhere that the way that Middle Easterners deal with fanatical young men in their families or communities is to marry them off, so that they have wives, children and responsibilities, which makes them less likely to want to kill or die -- but look at all the married terrorists who just use other young men to do their dirty work.

There may not be a solution, only day to day maintenance, more or less, of the status quo.



To: michael97123 who wrote (35099)3/17/2004 2:31:36 PM
From: Nadine Carroll  Respond to of 793911
 
You cant even appease these guys

But they can try. And while they are trying, they are not allies of the US, because they will be trying to obstruct action in the WOT in the interests of appeasement.