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To: Road Walker who wrote (185020)	3/17/2004 3:41:32 PM
From: Alighieri	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1578012

Yes, there is. Terrorist are people who plan and/or commit terrorist acts. People who "harbor or enable" terrorists are, well, people who harbor or enable terrorists. You can say that the second group is just as deserving of punishment, but you can't say they are the same. Pakistan comes to mind as a member of the second group. OK...but I am trying to distill the essence of all this precision. What are you guys trying to say that is practical here? Taleban harbored AQ...if you and I were harboring criminals who killed and maimed AND intended to do so again, we'd be criminals too. That's what I am saying. I mean, I understand the pre-cursors that even led to the existence of the Taleban. But post 9/11, how the US dealt with Taleban was to go through a fairly patient process of warning and demands for turn over of AQ and BL. What should it have done differently (besides losing track of them and getting involved in a major distraction called Iraq)? Al

To: Road Walker who wrote (185020)	3/17/2004 5:54:00 PM
From: tejek	Respond to of 1578012

John, <font color=brown> I was actually thinking the Spaniards were a little harsh on Aznar. Turns out the sucker actually called the newspapers personally to let them know there was no doubt that ETA was behind the bombings. To hell with his people, he desperately was trying to save the election for his party. He didn't even have the coutesy to attend the mass funeral today. Why do I keep forgetting that they play by their own rules and the ends justify whatever means they choose to use?!! Screw them! Zapatero rip on......tear them to shreds. Aznar and the PP deserve it!<font color=black> ted *************************************************** Aznar absent as Spain mourns From AFP March 18, 2004 MADRID: Huge memorial ceremonies for the 201 people killed in the Madrid train bombings have been held in the Spanish capital. Outgoing prime minister Jose Maria Aznar, who lost power in elections held three days after the attacks, was notably absent from a funeral service in central Madrid. Mr Aznar's surprise loss, which saw the Socialists win government, was at least partly due to voters believing Spain was targeted by al-Qa'ida because of his decision to back the US war on Iraq in defiance of public opinion. More than 3500 people, including Spain's Queen Sofia, packed in and around Madrid's cathedral to pay their respects to the victims, who died after 10 bombs ripped apart four commuter trains in the capital last Thursday. "Your war, our dead" read one of the signs in front of Madrid's City Hall, summing up a common sentiment directed at Mr Aznar. Mr Aznar was also pilloried yesterday for trying to pressure the media into blaming Basque separatists, rather than Islamic extremists, for the Madrid train bombings. The head of one newspaper, El Periodico, said Mr Aznar had called editors in the aftermath of last Thursday's attacks to implicate ETA even as evidence emerged suggesting Islamist involvement. "The day of the massacre Aznar told me personally, and the directors of other dailies, that ETA was the perpetrator without the slightest shred of doubt," Antonio Franco said. Journalists at state-run news agency EFE have demanded the resignation of their news director for swallowing the government line that ETA was responsible. The Association of Foreign Journalists issued a formal protest letter, which said: "On the evening of Thursday, March 11, some officially accredited correspondents received an appeal from the Ministry of Communication asking us to say explicitly in our articles that ETA was the author of the attacks." Voter anger with the government's manipulation of the tragedy was a decisive factor in the defeat of Mr Aznar's conservative administration in Sunday's election. A cartoon in French newspaper Le Monde portrayed Mr Aznar with a Pinnochioesque nose, grown long from lies, from which Osama bin Laden was swinging on a ballot box.** theaustralian.news.com.au