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To: TimF who wrote (185062)3/17/2004 8:31:55 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1573811
 
1 - My statement was only about Bush.

Cheney is Bush's VP. He says a lot of things for the administration.

True but I didn't say "the administration did not say", I said "Bush did not say". And also Cheney didn't make the statement that Bush was supposed to have said not to my knowledge did anyone in the administration.


Once again, you're playing games because you have no defense. Once again, your partisanship comes out in spades. When will you think first about your country and not your party?

Sorry Tim, but you have some kind of comprehension problem, or you have a very dark character. I can't continue to discuss these things with you if it gets to the point where if its not said exactly the way you think it should be said, then it must be negated or ignored.

If you are going to accuse someone of murder and they committed assault and battery and someone calls you on your false accusation, saying "but they are a criminal" is not a defense of your false accusation. If your accusation was under oath you would now be a criminal (perjury is a crime even if Clinton got away with it). Statements on SI are of course no under oath so there is no crime in lying on SI but you shouldn't be surprised when others call you on lying (or in this case call Tigerpaw on it and then argue against those who defend the lie).


I'll keep that in mind.

Bottom line: Bush and Cheney lied to the American people. You need to accept it. They may lose the election over this issue.

That has not been established, but just for the rest of this paragraph I'll assume for the sake of argument that its true. If Bush and Cheney did lie they still didn't make the lie that Tigerpaw accused them of. If I falsely accused Clinton or Kerry of making a specific lie which he did not make, it would be wrong and it wouldn't become right just because he made some other lie. I'm sure I would be called on it if I posted it here and the fact that they might have lied about something else would be no defense for my false accusation. The same standard applies to accusations against Bush, Cheney or anyone else.


What part of TP's comments were lies. You are starting to muddy up the waters again and I don't want to misunderstand your point. BTW I thought the argument was with JF, not TP.

Now if the point you are trying to make is that "Bush lied", then you would do well to base your accusations on things Bush really said. Making up a false statements (or defending them when others make them) just reduces your credibility.

Bush's VP said it. The VP speaks for Bush and the administration. Had he been fired for saying it, then you would have a point. In fact, he has not been fired. All of this is fact.........so you do not have a point.

ted