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To: jlallen who wrote (39802)	3/18/2004 11:57:33 AM
From: cnyndwllr	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 89467

I agree with you. They were not attacked on 9/11 and so they are thinking a lot more objectively and a lot less emotionally. Would you trust the judgement of one who was thinking with their heart more than one who was thinking with their brain? What's that old saying; "step back and take an objective look at things?" If you step back and look it over, it's apparent that 9/11 had virtually nothing to do with Iraq but that our current actions in Iraq are laying the seeds for more 9/11s. Most of the world understands that. Many of our leaders understand that. It's Bush and his people that seem unable to comprehend the obvious.

To: jlallen who wrote (39802)	3/18/2004 12:23:00 PM
From: cnyndwllr	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 89467

I just happened to read a Time Magazine article a few minutes ago that you might find educational. Here is an excerpt: "Even such establishment voices as London's prestigious International Institute of Strategic Studies, which supported the Iraq war and hosted President Bush's during his recent state visit to Britain, concludes that the hostility sparked by the Iraq war has substantially increased the growth potential for jihadi terror groups. Rather than isolating the jihadis in Arab public opinion and starving them of support, the effect of the war has been to move their view of the U.S. closer to the mainstream. Fighting the Hydra Just as President Bush claims 9/11 "changed everything" in U.S. politics, so, too may the Madrid attacks mark a turning point in Europe's relationship to President Bush's war on terror. The continent's geographical proximity to the Arab world and its large — and mostly impoverished and marginalized — Arab immigrant populations make it especially vulnerable to terror attacks. Now that al-Qaeda and its supporters are directly attacking Europe's cities rather than simply using them as staging areas, European leaders are looking to ramp up their own efforts to fight terror. But as the Spanish election result shows, this may put them more sharply at odds with the Bush administration. That's because there's a widely held belief among the Europeans that while police and intelligence cooperation across the Atlantic (and across the Mediterranean, with Arab security services) has been highly effective in eliminating al-Qaeda cells, the U.S. invasion of Iraq has been not only ineffective, but actually counterproductive in the fight against terrorism. European Commission chief Romano Prodi argues that the use of military force as a prime weapon in the fight against terrorism is not working: "Terrorism is now more powerful than ever before," he says. And most European leaders believe the al-Qaeda phenomenon will not be defeated until the anti-U.S. grievances in the Arab world on which it feeds have been addressed." time.com